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And see, I think that's too broad, because literally everyone is guilty of holding onto a belief that they formed before they had enough information, however small.
Have you ever driven one route from point A to B, but taken a completely different route from B to A, both directions believing you are taking the fastest route? Maybe it's doublethink, maybe we just got in a habit and never reconciled the conflicting beliefs, or maybe we think the evidence we've been presented with is not a representative sample of reality. Maybe a map shows one route to be obviously faster both ways, but you think "well once you factor in the lights, and the number of turns, and the traffic at the times of day I take each route, it makes sense to take different routes each way. These are hard to account for on a map, and how I do it feels shorter, so I'm going to keep doing what I think is best regardless of what this data says."
To me, the "defining feature" of a flat earther is accepting a false belief after it's been amply demonstrated to you to be false. It's not something you didn't have enough evidence about, but now you do, it's something you had overwhelming evidence for, but reject it all. That is not something we all do every day, that is potentially delusional behavior.
This is still covered by my phrasing.
Yes. I'm saying my definition is a stricter subset of your definition, and that your definition is too broad because it includes literally everyone.
And I'm saying your definition is covered by my phrasing.
We are in agreement. But if you still don't agree with me, I don't think that makes you look like a flat earther. Cheers, gotta go make dinner!
Bite me
Awful kind of you to offer, but I found my own food ;)
This makes you look like a flat earther.
And you a pedant
No, you have resorted to ad hominin attacks in your discussion of flat earthers, which is a very flat earth thing to do. If your logic and ideas are insufficient to win people to your perspective personal attacks are a weak substitute.
You resorted to ad homien first you bridge dweller.
Does a bridge dweller live on the bridge, in the bridge, or under the bridge?