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[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 65 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also, "I created the vastness of reality, the complexity of existence, and all that has ever been, but I will only communicate via vague "signs" and schizophrenic humans."

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

That actually makes sense. A being so powerful is far too different from humanity to communicate clearly.

[–] Beinofenstrot@feddit.de 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He creatd EVERYTHING, human beings in his image, and can't find a better way?!

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. A being so powerful would crush anyone he would directly communicate with. Try to play BG3 on a Game Boy Color.

[–] valkyre09@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Here’s some additional research on the subject 😀 https://youtu.be/LAn5Hwb7Y94?si=z53IvrD85Fxsrb3N

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A bit blasphemous to say that. An all powerful being would find a way.

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I don't care much about blasphemy ^^. It's just logics. All-powerfulness doesn't make the impossible possible.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The blasphemy was a bit in jest. However I'm scripture it's clear that he did communicate to humans, even taking a human form through his son/alter ego.

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes communication is possible, just not directly, hence the signs and the symbols.

As for Jesus, even if he's God and a human at the same time, it doesn't mean that he would be able to speak divine truths directly. An infinite being as God cannot be rendered in a finite language.

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

An all powerful sky wizard can do whatever he wants. Imaginary Sky Daddy can be rendered in whatever way he see fits without people like you "defining" how he does and doesn't work.

It's all just goofy conjecture anyways used to control people. "Murder in the name of" and all that insanity.

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

God may exist or may not exist. And you can break all the rules of logics when you write fiction.

It doesn't mean it's not interesting to apply the rules of logic to the idea of God. It's even an important part of philosophy.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's an open philosophical question whether omnipotence means:

  1. The ability to do anything, or
  2. The ability to do anything possible.
[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I never encountered the first one, but I did not read everything 😅

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

All-powerfulness isn't logically possible.

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It depends on how you define omnipotence.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

True

Ah right, that LN/Manga something something power of instant death (was an anime last season) has heavy fokus on this, since the gods there are only gods if they see themselves as omnipotent.

[–] Iapar@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago

It means that there is nothing impossible for that being because it is all-powerfull.

[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Mate, what are you on about?

You create a whole universe and stick humans in a tiny portion of a tiny galaxy, of a tiny star system, in a tiny part of the planet, in a tiny set of environmental conditions able to observe a tiny percentage of the electromagnetic radiation for a tiny amount of time able to manipulate objects in a tiny percentage of physical scale and are born to have 0 knowledge of God unless some other human tells you about it, and you better hope you believe the right one or you are sent to eternal torment?

"But it makes sense because your mind would melt" wtf?

Give us a universal language and an innate ability to read it, and write your words on the surface of the moon, or even better we grow with the knowledge pre installed in our heads.