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[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

You're right, Israel should not get a free pass for genocide or ethnic cleansing.

Hamas began twenty years into the occupation during the first Intifada, with the goal of ending the occupation. Collective punishment has been a deliberate Israeli tactic for decades with the Dahiya doctrine. Violence such as suicide bombings and rockets escalated in response to Israeli enforcement of the occupation and apartheid.

Hamas 1988 Charter and Revised 2017 Charter

The 1988 Charter, which is certainly unreasonable in its fundamentalism with Sharia Law and is antisemitic, does not call for the extermination of all Jewish People. Hamas wants an end to Israel as an Apartheid State, not an extermination of all Israelis. Under Ahmed Yassin in the 1990's, truces were offered in exchange for Israeli to withdrawal from Gaza and the West Bank to the 1967 borders. The 2017 Revised charter explicitly accepts a Two-State Solution of the 1967 Borders. Check Article 7 and 13 of the 1988 Charter to see yourself, compare it to Article 20 and 24-26 in the revised charter.

The slogan From the River to the Sea is about Palestinian liberation that started in the 60s by the PLO for a democratic secular state, not Genocide. The Syrian leader Hafez al-Assad in 1966 maybe, but he's not Palestinian.

History of Hamas supported by Netanyahu since 2012

No I don't support Hamas as a ruling party, I want Palestinians to be able to have free fair elections.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I want Palestinians to be able to have free fair elections.

Okay, but what if they vote for the wrong people. Can we go back to genocide then?

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What are you talking about? A free and fair election is impossible under an apartheid regime

Edit: oh I think your comment was sarcasm lol, i can be hard to tell without the /s

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Okay, but maybe we just take a poll and if too many Palestinians support Hamas we can use that as an excuse not to hold elections.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tell Palestinians to excise their Iranian corruption, tell us where Hamas is hiding, and where the tunnels are located.

Until then, the Palestinians don't want Palestinians to be able to have free fair elections, who cares that you do?

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes those are figures. Really speaks to the absolute abysmal failure of Hamas to act like leaders.