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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 0 points 6 months ago (13 children)

I mean, I exaggerated for humor, but people did absolutely say:

  • Biden ruined the economy
  • Biden fucked up on climate change
  • Biden betrayed us by not decriminalizing marijuana after he said he would
  • "Separating families at the border" got worse under Biden
  • Trump's Covid policy was amenable to people steering him the right way whereas Biden cancelled a bunch of the safety things we needed
  • Biden is the one doing the genocide

Aside from the genocide, the last few were so laughable that it's easy to conclude I just made them up as a pure strawman, but yes I absolutely had people tell me the un-exaggerated version of them.

Would it be better if I spelled out exactly what were the literal things people told to me instead? Yeah maybe I shouldn't "joke" in this way if I'm gonna be saying other people are using a strawman.

[–] juicy 6 points 6 months ago (11 children)

He's not separating families at the border, but he is keeping children in open air detention camps without sanitation or adequate food and water.

Migrants who cross the border illegally wait under open skies or sometimes in tents or structures made of tree branches while short on food and water. When the number of migrants was particularly high last year, they waited for several days for Border Patrol agents to arrest and process them.

Gee said there was “significant evidence” that Customs and Border Protection, of which Border Patrol is a part, has physical control over minors at the outdoor locations. For example, CBP vehicles occasionally transport or drop off migrants to the camps and for a time, gave out wristbands to organize migrants by when they had arrived.

“This is a tremendous victory for children at open air detention sites, but it remains a tragedy that a court had to direct the government to do what basic human decency and the law clearly require,” Neha Desai, senior director of immigration at the National Center for Youth Law, said in a statement. “We expect CBP to comply with the court’s order swiftly, and we remain committed to holding CBP accountable for meeting the most rudimentary needs of children in their legal custody, including food, shelter, and basic medical care.”

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Congress writes the statutes on how people are detained.

[–] juicy 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Show me the statute stating that asylum seekers need to be kept in open air detention with inadequate food, water, and hygiene.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11343

Cites to the statutes for detention on who and how long, as well as the 2018 Supreme Court decision I referred to, authorizing indefinite detention.

The horrid conditions are factors of other statutes related to budgets and sovereign immunity. I'm sure I can point you to some of the civil lawsuits about conditions so you can trace back the Republican policy of cruelty as it permeated immigration law.

[–] juicy 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, I'm sure you know the law better than the judge who ordered them to improve conditions.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago

And it's because of sovereign immunity that had to to happen. That's statutory law.

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