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[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are functional public translation systems in most medium sized cities and larger. Its just that they suck absolute balls compared to the freedom of owning a car.

[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Nope. Realistically speaking, in more than half of the cities that have some form of public transportation in the U.S., the public transportation is so inadequate that it's not an alternative.

At one point, a few years ago, to go from the northwest suburbs of minneapolis (maple grove/brooklyn park) to the north central suburbs of minneapolis (eden prairie/edina) by bus, on a weekday, it took 11 hours, a trip farther south into the city proper (spoke routes coming out from a central hub) and mutiple MILES of walking between stops. For a 20-ish mile trip.

This is FAR from uncommon for anywhere with a bus system if you get anywhere outside the absolute center of the infrastructure. The spoke methodology meant you could get from the suburbs (and farther) to downtown and back just fine, but as soon as the busses stopped running every ten to fifteen minutes, you were looking at hours of switching routes and waiting to get from anywhere not central to anywhere else not central.

That's not an alternative to using a car, it's a marginally available, occasionally usable, limited choice alternative to SOME walking, SOME of the time.

Until there are 24 hour, regularly and frequently scheduled public transportation options going everywhere there are roads to, public transportation cannot be a viable alternative to all car use.

I'd settle for it being a viable alternative to SOME car use, but much of the time, outside of a handful of MAJOR cities, it's not.

...and I took the bus in Minneapolis for years, despite having a car and a license. It makes sense when you live and work downtown, but that's about it.

The public transportation in most cities is only functional in the sense that the ignition works in the busses and they occasionally drive between a few points in a few areas.