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[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

and the anti-backlash begins, because snapdragons are magical and microsoft has never fucked over its users

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

you know what really fucking gets me about this thing? even "before" all of the security and DV etc arguments (and, really, they are all valid)

consider the average consumer-human (present version of) windows desktop/laptop/workstation that has survived for more than a year or so without having been re-imaged. those are already often an unusable nightmare of built-up cruft in sticky corners

and now there's going to be something that'll do constant capture and analysis every fucking moment it's running?

how the fuck is this not going to go wrong? imagine the first time that sqlite table shits the bed. a dodgy character format goes into it, or a bit of disk corruption hits, or a file locking (lololol) issue hits, or .....

I just ..... I just really can't imagine any of this is going to go very well at all in the real world

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I’m calling it, when this bullshit gets deployed widely a bunch of absolute shitheads are going to dismiss Kevin’s post with “that was the prototype, they changed everything for the real version” and the only thing that’ll change is they’ll superficially encrypt the SQLite file

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

built-up cruft in sticky corners

holy shit this is terrifying. is there any reason the tv is even doing this?

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 7 months ago

I'd bet on just buggy implementation. my bet is based on the fact that I've seen (multiple) hisense TVs do another thing: a MDNS query + publish, with the record having a newline in the fucking record. like, tvname-{macstring}\n.local.

to be clear: they both ask for and answers to that record. to their own request.

there are some extremely hilariously terrible things in a lot of these yoloboxed android solutions

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

love how the MS shill eventually reaches:

Okay, here's a question; when has the casual consumer ever cared about privacy?

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago

narcissist's prayer speed-run

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

every fucking time! and the answer seems to be: they care enough that privacy’s a core part of Apple’s marketing, but microsoft’s core competency is still managing Maslow’s hierarchy of needs enough that their users are on average just barely more inconvenienced by switching operating systems than they are dealing with whatever new shit’s being sprung on them (and this latest new shit’s gone from annoying to actively dangerous, so the tactic is to convince users it’s irrelevant to them until it’s made mandatory, as Microsoft does, and then the pain of suddenly switching operating systems will be even greater)

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago

27 years of trying to make clippy mandatory and they’re still fucking at it but surely this time they’ll listen to their users

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

People simping for Microsoft makes my '90s-kid brain boggle.

[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

As someone who did come to love a lot of microsoft products despite the way I felt about them in the 90’s, their slow slide into whatever they are now makes me hate them more, not less. Microsoft genuinely spent a lot of the oughts making genuinely good general purpose stuff, and they absolutely dominated at accessibility for 20 years. So when people simp for them as they destroy everything I found great about their products, instead of holding them to account, it’s awful.

Guess who bought the dictation software I rely on for everything I do and then basically abandoned the useful consumer product and is now sticking gippity-4 into it? Stick it in GitHub, stick it in Windows, add it to your complete breakfast, wear it on your head.

[–] StompyRobot@mastodon.gamedev.place 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@gnomicutterance @blakestacey the new guard trying to reinvent the world with Windows 11, and completely ignoring multiple screen layouts, doesn't understand that Windows is a workstation OS.
Or maybe they don't want that market anymore? Which seems short sighted.

[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 6 points 7 months ago

My Windows machines have all been skinned to work like XP for 20 years, and sometimes I have to use other people's computers and I don't even understand how they get anything done. My start menu is predictable and the items in it are in the same place and with the same keystrokes every day. There's no ads in it. It doesn't tell me the weather or the sports scores when I don't ask for them. My taskbar shows me the names of all the windows I have open. This should all be normal.

[–] PiiiepsBrummm@chaos.social 5 points 7 months ago

@gnomicutterance @blakestacey
What could possibly go wrong?¹

🙄

¹ rhetorical

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

LOL, the first thing I saw of these new lappys was a breathless Verge article saying "finally MS will release the Macbook Air killer" and the very next thing is the poisoned chalise that is "you want a fast efficient Windows machine? well you just have to accept the AI recording everything you do on it". Fucking own goal.

[–] self@awful.systems 6 points 7 months ago

the incredible efficiency of writing OCRed screenshots to SQLite constantly

so Linux on laptops is frequently a shitshow in terms of power management, but bespoke Linux hardware that comes tuned (like the Steam Deck or laptops from Linux vendors) seems to do a lot better than Windows for efficiency. I’m hoping this is an area where shit gets better for Linux as hardware vendors start to take it more seriously.