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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending Sunday 2 June 2024 (awful.systems)

submitted 6 months ago by froztbyte@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems

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Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid!

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post, there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 12 points 6 months ago (12 children)

So there was a big, vaguely described, public kerfuffle at a beach in my city, so I logged onto Xitter to see what happened. The first (and only relevant post) was from a sinister-ish sounding bluecheck. Low and behold, I found that he writes to the Unz review.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240526210416/https://www.unz.com/article/the-worlds-greatest-boxer-is-a-white-man/ It's all about Usyk, a heavyweight boxer who's considered a pound for pound great. Usyk is a great boxer, undoubtedly. But this article is strangely constructed, borderline pointless, and brazenly racist (shocker). And honestly, reading the comments, I think the author's just trying to cope with the fact that black boxers tend to be popular.

I don't think racist cope on its own is even worth a stubstack, but this one take is especially stupid:

Since it’s assumed that heavyweight boxers are able to beat everyone below their weight class, the heavyweight champ is essentially the real champ. And until last weekend, there hasn’t been an undisputed heavyweight champion since 1999, when Lennox Lewis—a black “British” man—collected all of the belts, only to lose one of them a year later when he failed to promptly fight a mandatory challenger.

To those unfamiliar with combat sports, I can't emphasize enough how weird it is to say that the heavyweight champ is the best boxer, period. Skill - irrespective of raw strength - is super important to boxers and other people who participate in combat sports. To the point that any fan ranking a pro boxer will likely talk about "Pound for pound" (p4p) greats, not the objectively strongest fighters. And right now the unofficial p4p great is a sub 5'6" Japanese boxer Naoya "Monster" Inoue. This man is a beast. I don't need to glaze him any harder, just google him or look up what people think on reddit. Weirdly enough, he's not mentioned once.

Hell, he doesn't mention Gervonta "Tank" Davis at all. He's half an inch shorter than Inoue, but he's also considered a p4p great and is known for his high boxing IQ. As a matter of fact, he doesn't mention Terence Crawford - 5'8" also considered a p4p great - at all either. Hmmm.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've never heard of these boxers, but this was pretty funny

In this corner: Tyson “The Gypsy King” Fury, a bald 6’9” behemoth who resembles the Amazing Colossal Man of 1957 sci-fi B-movie infamy. Fury was born 35 years ago to Irish Traveller parents [...]

I doubt that either Fury or Usyk understand the term “white” as Americans do. The main ethnic identity I’ve seen Fury claim is that of an Irish Gypsy whose people have been oppressed by the British for centuries. Fury even once let these words slip from his lips before one of his fights with Deontay Wilder when asked if there was a racial element to their matchup:

We’re all hauman beings. It doesn’t matter if you’re black, white, pink or green. We share the same blood. We are humans.

(mispelling in original)

Shocking that a pro boxer named Fury is a better human being than some self-proclaimed racist blogger.

[–] maol@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Irish Travellers/Mincéir are hugely discriminated against in both Britain and Ireland. I would tell this guy to go crack a book but he would probably just write another racist article about Travellers.

E: I just had a féach at Tyson Fury's wikipedia page and apparently he was named after Mike Tyson.

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