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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 294 points 10 months ago

Jesus, at this point over half the country will ban porn because of religious extremists who hate freedom. Fascism and anti free speech.

[-] qwamqwamqwam@sh.itjust.works 28 points 10 months ago

Age verification for pornography has something like a 70% approval rating. It’s not a religious extremism issue, it’s a “normies don’t want or care about their freedoms issue”.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 45 points 10 months ago

The concept is not terrible, the implementation is. Passing this law with no secure way of proving identity is where it’s clearly just a Christo-fascist power move.

[-] Sylver@lemmy.world 87 points 10 months ago

I think a law verifying your age over the internet inherently breaks the idea of a free internet, of which we are already seeing degradation of by Google and DRM/web integrity anyways.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't see how it doesn't violate free speech. Imagine needing the government's permission to talk to someone?

Edit: forgot a word

[-] Sylver@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

I agree. Even internet security protocols are at risk, and the dinosaurs responsible for writing laws don’t understand basic encryption let alone the idea that it is 100% a needed concept in a free, fair, and just society.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

There are already age limitations that are constitutional. You can’t run for office, buy alcohol, drive a car etc.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

That's not speech. You can age limit things, but not on speech. Beyond that, the limitations on speech have to meet certain conditions where it's in the publics best interest and doesn't put too much burden on the public.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Restricting access to explicit material is the same as restricting alcohol or tobacco.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Tobacco is not speech.

Edit: plus one is an economic regulation .The other is not. Like, you can smoke tobacco at really any age. Just can buy it at any age.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago
[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago

You're still ignoring my first point which is the much more important distinction. It's not speech.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

It’s not a free speech issue.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago

The literal lawsuit says otherwise. It's the first claim they wrote.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I have my doubts it’ll succeed on free speech arguments alone.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

I have my doubts that people should comment on things they clearly haven't read, but here we are.

[-] Buelldozer 1 points 10 months ago

I think a law verifying your age over the internet inherently breaks the idea of a free internet

That was broken decades ago.

[-] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

today couldn't have happened if yesterday's degradation didn't occur. it's been slowly breaking for a while now.

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