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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 294 points 1 year ago (27 children)

Jesus, at this point over half the country will ban porn because of religious extremists who hate freedom. Fascism and anti free speech.

[–] Master@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

and then those same people who want it banned close their curtains and start watching it.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like all these child protecting puritans who end up being pedophiles and sex traffickers lol

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[–] qwamqwamqwam@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago (27 children)

Age verification for pornography has something like a 70% approval rating. It’s not a religious extremism issue, it’s a “normies don’t want or care about their freedoms issue”.

[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago

I think there's a lot of vague support for keeping porn away from children that evaporates in the context of the actual issue at hand where porn sites are being mandated to collect and store the IDs of every visitor.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago (30 children)

The concept is not terrible, the implementation is. Passing this law with no secure way of proving identity is where it’s clearly just a Christo-fascist power move.

[–] Sylver@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think a law verifying your age over the internet inherently breaks the idea of a free internet, of which we are already seeing degradation of by Google and DRM/web integrity anyways.

[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

I don't see how it doesn't violate free speech. Imagine needing the government's permission to talk to someone?

Edit: forgot a word

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

And fuck sending your driver's license to random shady porn sites

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 190 points 1 year ago (29 children)

My parents had a porn blocker, and all it made me do was learn enough about computers to circumvent it. Even if they put age verification in front of every porn site in the world there's still torrents and chat rooms and forums all over where you can find it, and kids will find it. Next thing they'll mandate is putting toothpaste back in the tube.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Trying to stop people from doing something is a sure fire way to guarantee they will do that thing.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 79 points 1 year ago

It's not that. It's that if you tell a horny teenager that there's pictures of naked people somewhere they'll move heaven and earth to get to it.

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[–] Muddobbers@infosec.pub 43 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Not only will they find it, they'll end up going to the sketchier sites that don't do the age verification because they're not well known enough and not following the laws and they'll likely get something infected on the computer/network or worse.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 1 year ago

Not only will they find it, they’ll end up going to the sketchier sites that don’t do the age verification because they’re not well known enough and not following the laws and they’ll likely get something infected on the computer/network or worse.

It's like that time we declared a war on drugs and then there were no drugs. Wait, actually that led to a massive black market and tons of violence.

Point being, you're not gonna stop it. You're just gonna make it less safe.

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[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 169 points 1 year ago (14 children)

America is such garbage lol. You guys should really focus on the important stuff.

[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (15 children)

It's garbage because brainless rednecks voted in Trump and Republicans

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[–] TheRobotFrog@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We're trying, but our government won't let us.

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[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Its full of evangelical Christians. That and Anglo-Saxon culture even minus the evangelical Christians is very squeamish around sex. Just look at the different attitude towards talking to kids about sex that you find in the UK and on the Continent, even the Germanic countries tend to be a lot more open about this stuff than the UK.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Its full of evangelical Christians.

That number has been shrinking for decades, while at the same time the christo-faccists are getting more pushy.

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[–] stephfinitely@artemis.camp 169 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Religious zealots shouldn't be dictating what I watch, read or do.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 82 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Especially when they're watching this stuff too

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[–] poshKibosh@sh.itjust.works 146 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Even if there was some secure, hardened way of verifying people’s ages without handing over PII to random websites, these age verification laws are still utterly ridiculous.

It’s not the government’s job to parent your kids on the internet. If you don’t want your kids visiting specific websites or viewing specific content, you take 15 minutes out of your goddamn day to do your job as a parent, and set up a content blocker on your home network.

[–] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you take 15 minutes out of your goddamn day to do your job as a parent, and set up a content blocker on your home network.

Or, I don't know, talk to your kid?

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[–] iopq@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can't you just use a VPN to get past a content block? Sounds exactly like a project a 14 year old me would research

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Teaching the youth to protect their Internet identity feels like a win.

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[–] qwamqwamqwam@sh.itjust.works 112 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The sicko in me hopes they spend the next two weeks linking every policymaker in the state to their pornography habits and just dump the whole dataset online. Yeah, it would probably counterproductive and not great for democracy but I wouldn’t it be the sickest burn of all time?

[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Ironically it would be so much easier to do that if they actually implemented the law they're suing over, which demands they record the ID of everyone who uses the site.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Hmm, the article is a little confusing, but it sounds like they're mostly just complaining about the age verification, not really suing over that specifically. The real sticking point, and the one they actually stand a good chance of winning in court is about the warning they're being required to display that's both libelous and factually false. Texas for better or worse is within their rights to require age verification, even the very odious version of it being proposed that would require collecting state IDs, so it's unlikely that they would actually win if that was their only issue with the law. Fortunately Texas (and others) massively overstepped by trying to slap a health and safety warning a la cigarette packages onto porn sites since they let a bunch of nutty politicians write the text of the message rather than actual medical professionals (probably because they couldn't find any respectable medical professional that would endorse their wacky notions).

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[–] wheresmypillow@lemmy.one 70 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think a lot of these states are going about this wrong. We should be helping parents restrict access for their children rather than trying to verify identities of adults who likely want to remain anonymous.

[–] ShakyPerception@lemmy.world 86 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I am pretty sure these laws have nothing to do with "protecting children"

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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"You show me some lazy prick who's laying around all day watching game shows and stroking his penis and I'll show you someone who's not causing any fucking trouble"

-George Carlin

Republicans really believe shit like this and banning abortion will be successful at restoring the nuclear family... at gunpoint.

What it will really do is increase sexual assault, suicide, violence in general...

Of course that will be everyone else's fault for not submitting to their attempts at coercion correctly. Republicans insist on personal responsibility, exclusively for their many enemies and explicitly not for themselves.

The funniest bit is, they are the reason for the death of the nuclear family and the reason it won't be restored. If you give the owner class all the money out of the asses of the working citizens that would have kids, herp derp they won't have kids.

If they really wanted the "traditional American family" to come back, they need only restore tax levels to pre-reagan levels, and actually enforce them. Instead they'd rather threaten everyone for masturbating instead of making new wage slaves they can't afford to raise so Republicans can also get that dopamine hit of schadenfreude by calling them irresponsible for having kids they can't afford.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You want to restore the nuclear family? Make it financially viable for us to have one.

One of the main reasons I don’t have children is because it’s too goddamn expensive.

Also I’m sterile. But there’s nothing anyone can do about that.

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[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 year ago

Guess a state with a big enough user base finally tried this horse shit lol.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Porn hub should make a VPN and offer it for free to people in texas They could call it VaginaPenisNards

[–] jannis@feddit.de 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republican states really want everyone to be as miserable as possible.

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