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[–] vettnerk@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I know next to nothing about neither Ow1 or OW2, but from the sound of it they turned OW2 into a game focused on grinding, where you can pay to skip (part of) the grind. Is my assessment correct? If so they must've looked at War Thunder and taken that idea.

[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes. OW1 cost money, but you got all the content. The only paid service was cosmetic outfits for the different characters. You could buy loot boxes for cosmetics. But you had all of the characters, maps, game modes, etc available to begin with. You got the whole game, then could grind for cosmetics.

OW2 takes that and flips it on its head. The game is free, but each character costs money. The problem is that they shut down OW1, so now the players who owned 1 are having to grind for everything. They’ve also had some weird server bugs, with players getting indefinitely locked out of characters they already own.

[–] Cryst@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait. I bought overwatch 1 but stopped playing a few years ago. If I go back into overwatch I would have to grind for characters that I used to previously have access to?

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

No, this applies only to characters released in OW2. All the original characters should still be playable for free.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. The gameplay itself has no p2w or grinding in general, but now you have to grind to unlock characters. In OW1 you also used to get showered with cool cosmetics just for playing, in OW2 they turned it into a paid battle pass and a rotating cash shop where a single skin costs like $20 and F2P users get basically nothing. The thing is set up in a way to scam whales by selling them things that used to be free for hundreds of dollars.

I would still play if it were just cosmetics but now every time a hero releases you have to grind to unlock them.

[–] Panda@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does that mean that it I were to start playing again I wouldn't have my unlocked skins form OW1?

[–] simple@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You would but anyone who didn't has to buy them now. You still have to grind for new characters though.

[–] Panda@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Ah thanks! That's good to hear, at least. My nephew told me about Overwatch 2 replacing Overwatch 1 and suddenly being unable to play it because his PC now didn't meet the new requirements. I hadn't played for ages, so I didn't even know this had happened. Couldn't they just have released a real sequel that people had to pay for... Or use this new model, fine, but leave Overwatch 1 as it was. -.-