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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 99 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Trump's civil trials: Half a billion in fines, lost ability to do business in New York.

Trump's Jan 6 Federal case: stuck with SCOTUS deciding on presidential immunity by looking at polls in September.

Trump's Stolent document case: postponed until an inept judge can figure out how to have a trial where one of the exhibits is "stolen plans to assassinat all current world leaders: CIA, do not distribute" without all world leaders catching wind.

Trump's Georga interference case: Trying to get the other 10 defendants guilty before going after Trump

This was the only case that could have given him prison time before the election. Let's see the judge screw it up.

[–] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I wish that misuse of charity funds, and running a fraudulent University, verdicts where more in the spot light.

[–] Papergeist@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I doubt he goes to prison. People who get in trouble for this sorta thing tend to not go to prison. But then again, this one involves a presidential election, so there is a chance.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The judge has already admitted in writing that Trump is getting special treatment and much lighter punishment. He is going to get a slap on the wrist.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The whole "you might be president" reasoning after the 10th contempt instance.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

How does that imply a lighter sentence?

[–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Any normal person would be thrown in jail after 9 contempts. Not only Trump was still given an 11th chance, but the judge said explicitly it was because he is running. He literally has special treatment, an dis given much lighter punishments for his acts.

I can only assume this will be true for sentencing as well.

[–] suction@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh, it's just your assumption. In that case, I'll give it zero credibility.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago

No, it's precedent.

[–] havocpants@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I doubt he goes to prison. People who get in trouble for this sorta thing tend to not go to prison.

Trump's lawyer and fixer got 3 years in jail already for this crime. It was also his first offence. It would be pretty unfair to send the monkey to jail and not the organ grinder for the same crime.

You're probably right though, Trump is clearly getting special treatment because of his proclivity to stochastic terrorism.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Its been a bizarre case because someones already bloody gone to prison for it, the guy he ordered to make the payments. And then they just...chose not to care about trumps involvement.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

where one of the exhibits is "stolen plans to assassinat all current world leaders: CIA, do not distribute" without all world leaders catching wind.

You know, if he showed something like this, then it's not that bad.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

It doesn’t have to be prison, nobody really expects this trial will end with a prison sentence. I hope they find something way more helpful as this conviction was for election interference.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This was the only case that could have given him prison time before the election.

No judge in this country is sending a geriatric, senile, former president, beloved by a not-small segment of America, (a heavily armed and unstable segment) to prison. No judge is going to want that much attention and danger on themselves, nor will they want the historical scrutiny that will be cast on them for the rest of their lives. To say nothing of the guilt of starting civil unrest and deaths that will result.

Shit ain't fair. We gotta deal and get on with it.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
  1. Trump's crimes will never be investigated
  2. Trump's crimes will never be referred to a grand jury
  3. Trump will never be indicted by a grand jury
  4. Trump will never go to trial
  5. The judge will throw the case out
  6. The jury will not return a verdict / hung jury
  7. Trump will not be convicted on all counts
  8. Trump will not be sentenced <--- You are here
  9. Trump will not be punished (jail / house arrest)
  10. Trump will appeal and overturn the verdict
  11. Trump is too old and frail to serve his sentence
[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm actually at this part here:

  • Trump has dodged or delayed every possible avenue for avoiding consequence and has a large amount of followers who support him so him not serving a sentence or being punished more harshly than a fine is just how the real world works unfortunately and everyone is going to have to accept and understand that we live alongside a large population who sees someone like Trump as deserving of being above the law. (Also, the logistics of detaining a former president with secret service in a state prison is a nightmare unlike anything we've dealt with, and the WORST we could expect is a house arrest but even then Trump could sue or appeal because he's campaigning and can always say "I have the will of millions behind me" and he would be right. So maybe it's time to stop focusing so hard on Trump and instead why millions of people support his freedom.)