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[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (3 children)

No, I support keeping felons off the ballot because Republicans are the ones that stripped ex-cons of their right to vote.

How is a criminal voting more dangerous then becoming President? That was the right wing's justification for taking away former inmates right to vote.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

People with felonies shouldn't have been disenfranchised. That is obviously wrong.

That doesn't mean you should also do something that's wrong in response. Just because at this particular moment there would be an advantage to felons being forbidden from going on the ballot, doesn't mean that will always hold true in the future. What happens in 20 years when the Cop City protestors try to run for elected office and are forbidden because of the bullshit charges they incurred protesting?

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm keeping you accountable for the damage your side has already done. If you don't like it why don't you restore the voting rights of ex-cons and admit it was yet another way to subvert democracy by sealing votes away from people you know will not vote for you.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 5 months ago

Buddy, I like to argue with conservatives too but you genuinely will not find any on Lemmy and I am certainly not one myself.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

People with felonies shouldn’t have been disenfranchised. That is obviously wrong.

Felon disenfranchisement did not become popular or widespread until after the Civil War. No points for guessing that the potion of the population also most like to be prosecuted for felonies just happen to be black men.

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So we shouldn't hold Trump and the GOP accountable now for some hypothetical in 20 years. In the meantime the GOP continues to win elections now and for years to come because of voter suppression?

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 5 months ago

It's unrealistic that we will suddenly pass a law between now and November preventing felons from holding office. It could happen after that, but then it won't be applied to Trump, it will be applied to people on the left.

[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Allowing a felon to run is a legitimate check and balance that the people can have against the government.

It allows for the people to correct someone convicted of a crime by an unjust law. It allows for correcting (actual) political persecution.

This is a healthy thing.

That said. Fuck disenfranchisement. Directly fix that.

[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

two wrongs don't make a right

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Kindergarten platitudes don't work in the real world.

[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Restricting people's rights to make a point doesn't either

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So restore the rights of millions of people that you stripped away and not just your party toadie.

[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago

What makes you think I support that traitor? I just think your idea is bad