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[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've been thinking about your weird claims about IDF bots on social media promoting Biden, and frankly it doesn't make any sense. So let's just grant this idea that there's this large Israeli presence doing what Russia is doing in addition to the widely verified lobbying operations. Why would they encourage people to vote for Biden? Israel's goals are better facilitated by a Trump presidency than a Biden presidency, so why dedicate resources to getting Biden elected that don't make him compliant?

Frankly, it'd make more sense for them to encourage people to vote third party so Biden loses. Incidentally, that's exactly what you're doing. Even if you're not doing it on purpose, you're using the bodies of dead Palestinians to justify a position that hurts them; for all your moral posturing, your actions are supporting genocide more directly than someone who votes for Biden in silence.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Who is the biggest AIPAC lobby recipient again?

Also you don't have to theorize this. Multiple heavy IDF shills (the non subtle kind) actively defend Biden.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

biggest AIPAC lobby recipient

Doesn't matter.

As I alluded to in my previous comment, lobbying ensures compliance by creating a sense of dependancy or potentially gratitude; lots of lobbyist donate to people who they don't prefer in an attempt to influence them. It doesn't make sense to support the same kind of clientele with online bot accounts, so you need to show that Israel is likely to prefer Biden over Trump for it to make sense that a hypothetical bot team would even support Biden.

IDF shills

Not relevant.

Just for a second, let's assume you're both honest and correct. It makes sense for people who happen to both be Zionists and prefer Biden to argue in favor of Biden while entirely disregarding the genocide. Merely noticing these people does not show that the Israeli interests prefer Biden, even if we already assume the IDF bots not only exist but are present in large numbers.

Notice how I'm granting a lot that I don't need to while still showing you don't have a good argument for your previous claim.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

What you don't factor in is that these people are not trying to turn Democrats into trump supporters.

Israel owns both sides of the two party system a threat for them would be a third party. Your logic is entirely dependent on pretending that Trump would be so much better for israel while in fact it cannot get much better than Biden for israel.

so you need to show that Israel is likely to prefer Biden over Trump for it to make sense that a hypothetical bot team would even support Biden.

Have you never seen this yet?

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You didn't even read what I wrote, did you?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

That Biden Zionists are just an "organic movement"?

What do you think political campaign donations signify?