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How do you guys feel about Session? (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by ItsYourBoyHalo@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I've used it before, but I'm not really sure how I feel about it. Would you use it on a day-to-day basis?

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[–] uzay@infosec.pub 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I wouldn't see a reason to use Session over SimpleX

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think the server infrastructure is different? SimpleX is similar to a federation network, isn't it? Session uses an Onion-based approach like Tor.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. The difference is that you need to pay to host a Session node, and pay BIG money. That locks out most people that aren't cryptobros, companies or government agencies. While both a Tor/i2p node and Simplex server (or XMPP, or Matrix) are decidedly easy to set up.

[–] shadearg@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Each SimpleX release gets me closer to using it. The upcoming v5.8 update is no exception:

This release focus is improving the app usability, and preparing the foundation for v5.8 that will provide an in-built protection of user IP addresses when connecting to unknown file and messaging servers, reducing the need to use Tor (which would still remain supported via SOCKS proxy, for additional privacy).

And another round of security audits:

We are planning a 3rd party security audit for the protocols and cryptography design in July 2024, and also the security audit for an implementation in December 2024/January 2025,

Looking good.

Edit: SimpleX v5.7.5 is 313 MB without Data/Cache on Android. Yikes.

Client	Version	App size
SimpleX	v5.7.5	313 MB
Threema Libre	5.3.1l	138 MB
Jami	20240521-01	102 MB
Briar	1.5.11	101 MB
Session	1.18.4	99 MB

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My use of session is limited to my kids, wife and a couple of friends. I had high hopes for it when I started using it, but its devs have fallen incredibly short. I have also tried SimpleX on and off, but for some reason, it drinks battery like there's no tomorrow, so I'm off of it for now.

[–] alshafei@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hello! In the latest v5.8 of SimpleX there are various improvements that might be of interest, including for battery consumption.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Yup. Just tried it again with a few paranoid friends like me, and the battery drain is now gone. Just moved the FAM over too 🤣🤣

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Multi client sync.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Kind of a workaround, but you can add all your devices to a group chat

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 2 points 5 months ago

That's actually fine. I wish the docs made that more clear.