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More efficient manufacturing, falling battery costs and intense competition are lowering sticker prices for battery-powered models to within striking distance of gasoline cars.

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[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Do you think we Americans are ok with that? Life in this country is complicated in its own ways.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

I know it's not the fault of American citizens, hence I didn't accuse them. Talking about American imperialism isn't saying "American citizens suck", I'm European myself and I'm fully aware of the actions of my government and the EU. The fact that I'm looking forwards to the end of western imperialism doesn't mean I wish any evil on the citizens of the west since they're not to blame for this system. I'm just saying it's hard to beat US and European imperialism in being evil.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I appreciate the clarification.

We'll do the best we can against an extremely well funded and entrenched oligarchy, controlling what we read/see/hear as effectively as possible. Places like Lemmy are sort of a weakness in their systems.

We Americans also have ourselves to look at, as animals it is hard to invite change when our basic needs are mostly met, e.g. our toilets work and we can buy food. We can do better, but it's a bit like climbing the walls of the maze vs running around within.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Again, I don't blame the general populace. What you say of "Americans have ourselves to look at", it's not that easy. These things don't happen in a vacuum, the context of Americans and Europeans (and Canadians and Aussies and even Russians) not looking inwards and realising imperialism, isn't a consequence of lack of self-awareness that these countries have and the rest don't. It's just a consequence of the system we happen to live in, which propagandizes certain points of view, talking points, and controls media to serve the interests of capital. It's hardly useful IMO to blame the majority for issues that could be solved "simply" by changing the ownership structure of media outlets, for example.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Group buy-in is generally a foundational requirement for future changes..

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Idk what you mean by "group buy-in", sorry, maybe it's an idiom I'm not picking, I'm not a native speaker.

If you mean that people generally should believe in the change for the change to happen, then yes, I agree that's a great starting point. That's why we leftists organise, and try to create resilient communities that care for those around us, in order to make people have better lives and be more aware of the oppression they're suffering, and when the material conditions are appropriate, to be there.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sorry about that. You correctly guessed the right meaning of the word.

Let's keep moving, we'll all do better so long as we can ignore the people trying to slow us down. Best of luck to you in your corner of the world.

[-] cheddar@programming.dev -1 points 1 month ago

I’m looking forwards to the end of western imperialism

This is always the problem: extremists want to end something but have no idea what will replace what they want to eradicate. It won't become better by itself. People take the good things we have for granted, focus their attention on the bad things without trying to solve them, and think that it'll somehow become better if we destroy everything. It won't. It's not hard to do worse than we're doing right now; it's incredibly easy. What is truly hard is doing better. That's why extremists are focused on destruction and not improvement.

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah, America is undermining it's own hegemony since 2016 and what do you know? The threat of violence is rising.

Russia invaded Ukraine, China is threatening Taiwan, Ethiopia is threatening Eritrea, Venezuela is threatening Guyana. A world where large nations can bully, invade, and occupy small nations unopposed is not really better than the Pax Americana.

[-] cheddar@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Exactly. People jump into discussions about how bad our world is, but they don't seem to know how bad it was 100, 200, or 300 years ago. And then they offer communism as the solution - the same communism that resulted in bloodshed everywhere it has been applied. It's sad to see people turn to solutions that are proven to be bad due to a lack of education and ignorance, instead of working on something that could really help. Such a waste of effort.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

God forbid we criticise the system for its failures.

What is truly hard is doing better

Yeah, mate, it's so hard not murdering millions of people in Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia and Iraq. They just die by themselves when the bombs happen to drop on them, so unfortunate.

Saying that things are difficult is actually an excuse for inaction and lukewarm reformism, as has been shown over the past decades with the Palestine occupation by Israel for example. The whole "it's so difficult" framework exposed in western media led to public opinion not being swayed one way or the other. Now, with the advent of social media and the access to international media of all ideologies, people clearly see there's a settler genocidal state bombing another. It's easy: stop the fucking bombings, and stop the settling, and stop the blockade on Gaza. It's not hard not bombing people, it actually costs a lot of money.

If you want constructive solutions I'll give you constructive solutions. Abolish unemployment by creating public employment. Abolish exploitation of the working classes by expropriating the means of production. Abolish homelessness and solve the housing crisis by building prefab housing on a nationwide scale. Stop bombing developing countries. All things I'm saying have been achieved by poorer nations 50+ years ago, it can be done and it's absolutely realistic.

Now, what do you propose?

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

Yes.

Most Americans are perfectly fine with it as long as their cell phone works and there's food on the table.

The number of us that are horrified by what America's done to get where it is is vanishingly small.

Almost half of this country is about to vote for a racist tyrannical idiot because he says the quiet part loud. A sizable number of people aren't committed to voting against the Cheeto tyrant. And a number of the people that are committed to voting against him aren't all that upset about the atrocities committed in their name, for shit as stupid as access to fucking tropical fruit.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I don't agree.

Unfortunately, you're a perfect example of the success of messaging being broadcast directly to deflate the sense of power and ability we all have, in spite of the walls confining us for tropical fruit.

Follow your thoughts to their conclusion, as designed: we've broken too much, and they're too powerful, there's nothing we can do.

It's not true.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago

Sadly your vague platitudes disagree with reality and don't directly respond to anything I said.

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