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[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a kinda dumb assumption of them though. Faschism is a highly state-controlled system. If the government doesn't like you, you and your property are gone.

[–] 332@feddit.nu 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yes, it is dumb, but it is in fact what they are doing.

Same story is playing out across much of europe - the conservatives and right liberals are building coalitions with the fascists, because without them the left would win, and that is apparently less acceptable to them than enabling authoritarians.

Pretty alarming, honestly.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the capitalist's short sightedness. They don't care for what happens in 10 years, or even in two years. If they can make money/gain power right now, all is fair game.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ironically like with the Nazis, the capitalists who are pushing this shit, do so because they have a very real chance of being the state, it is not highly state controlled, because fascism is a modern day barbarism, the state just being an organizational cover and legitimization of an elite aristocracy to do what they want.

remember when the Nazis took power they privatized almost all public works of the Weimar, and privatized it into their own ownership.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you have corrupt and all-powerful state leaders, in my opinion it doesn't matter much whether all the companies are privatized into the leader's ownership or owned by a state they control with their absolute power.

Hitler and Stalin had about the same level of control about important industries in their respective systems.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

just saw this while going through old backlogs

  1. Hitler did in fact not have the same control of industry that Stalin had.
  2. even the Soviet Union didn't consider it's self communist, but rather as an industrializing middleman to create the capital needed to achieve communism, look up vanguard party theory.