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[–] ciferecaNinjo@fedia.io 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s not an assumption. This is how power is produced in Belgium. There is only 1 nuclear power plant and it’s being decommissioned. 3 new fossil fuel burning power plants will be built.

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Your statements are inaccurate to a degree that they may as well be false.

Only 30% is gas. 70% is not gas. Renewables are growing extremely rapidly, now at over 25%. In the medium and long term Belgium is aiming to reduce its use of gas as much as possible.

Also, there are two nuclear power plants, not one.

Betting on gas, be it a stove or something else, is just stupid.

[–] Servais@dormi.zone 2 points 5 months ago

Nice corrections

[–] ciferecaNinjo@fedia.io 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Get your facts straight, or update Wikipedia to reflect your understanding:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Belgium

wind + solar + hydro → 20%

80% from burning fuels¹. With 3 new gas-burning plants under construction to replace nuclear, that’s not going to improve things.

Belgium is aiming to reduce its use of gas as much as possible.

Nonsense. I guess you missed the whole “Code Red” march against Electrabel last year protesting the plan to build 3 new gas-burning power plants.

there are two nuclear power plants, not one.

And that’s important why? From wikipedia:

“Belgium decided to phase out nuclear power generation completely by 2025.”

Whether there are 1, 2, or 5 nuclear plants is immaterial when it’s all being phased out, and replaced with gas-burning power plants.

Betting on gas, be it a stove or something else, is just stupid.

Betting in a way that neglects plans that have already been announced is stupid for sure.

¹ recall: fuel energy → heat energy→ steam → turbine → transmission → heat energy

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'll summarise why this is wrong too

  • Ignoring other renewables

  • Ignoring French nuclear imports

  • Ignoring current state but talking about possible future plans

[–] ciferecaNinjo@fedia.io 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Ignoring other renewables

I have accounted for all the renewables mentioned in the linked wikipedia page, which covers sources as insignificant as hydro (<1%). What else is there? Have you thought about updating wikipedia with whatever you think is missing?

Ignoring French nuclear imports

That would only increase the proportion of fuel energy even more, which only works against your botched claim. If you want to count French nuclear, then the portion of solar, wind, and hydro is proportionally even less. Brussels currently has a nuclear power plant inside the region. Why do you think it would it be sensible to transmit over such distance? That would introduce even more substantial inefficiency in the transmission.

Ignoring current state but talking about possible future plans

The status quo only has 1 year left on it. And nuclear power still has the same stages of energy transition loss you’ve failed to debunk. What’s the point? Your claim is nonsense either way.

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

No you haven't. Read your own source. Hint: biogas

Also, nuclear fuel is not gas, so this speaks for electric stoves, silly.

[–] ciferecaNinjo@fedia.io 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

No you haven't. Read your own source. Hint: biogas

biogas was used in 2009, not in 2020 when the stats were collected. Nor would it matter if it were still used. Hint: it would be an increase on the 80%.

recall: fuel energy → heat energy→ steam → turbine → transmission → heat energy

Also, nuclear fuel is not gas, so this speaks for electric stoves, silly.

That’s fuel. That’s in the 80%.

again: fuel energy → heat energy→ steam → turbine → transmission → heat energy

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Try fueling your stove with uranium and report back

[–] ciferecaNinjo@fedia.io 0 points 5 months ago

Luckily you don’t need to burn uranium to avoid 5 steps of energy transformation.