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[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Seriously. Like, okay, you think that the whole transgender thing is a fad, or "attention-seeking," or any other nonsense. Everybody is entitled to opinions, even stupid ones. I guarantee I have some stupid opinions, myself, about things that have no relevance to me.

But feeling the need to express those opinions, and feeling so strongly about it, and wanting to make legislation for it, and pretending you give two shits about girls' and womens' sports when 5 years ago you were talking shit about the WNBA because they were a joke to you, when you will knowingly interact with a trans person once or twice in a year, maybe, in your little podunk town, and since you are talking to them you won't have an opportunity to use a pronoun for them... well there's obviously something else at work here.

It makes it clear it's just an excuse to hate, because trans people don't affect them in the slightest.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's funny. Every time I see someone going on a rant about trans women in women's sports, I ask them when they started watching women's sports. I don't get a response, but I do get a bunch of downvotes. Even on Lemmy.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The people complaining about trans in women's sports don't watch women's sports for the sports.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pretty much, which is why they don't watch women's sports except things like beach volleyball.

They tend not to be big WNBA fans.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I watch women's hockey because I love hockey and women's hockey is more technical than men's.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And would you throw a shit fit if a trans woman played on a women's hockey team? Because those are the people I'm talking about.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My son started playing hockey when we was 5. There were an essentially equal number of girls and boys across the teams in our league with many hundreds of players across all the teams in all of the associations in the league. As they got older the number of girls started to drop off. Through U13 and into U15 the boys went through puberty and on average got bigger, stronger, faster, and more aggressive. In U15 we were down to 3 girls on our team. Going in to U18 we will have one. Some of the girls lost interest in hockey. Some left because they couldn't compete at the same level as the boys. Our best girls went on to play girl's hockey where they would have a more even playing field playing against other girls.

No, I don't, "throw a shitfit" when I see a male athlete playing against female athletes (and frankly, labeling anyone who doesn't agree with you as, "throwing a shitfit" completely devalues your position) but I do understand why those female athletes who choose to play female sports because they want a more even playing field and to play against other female athletes might see it as unfair to be forced to compete against a male athlete.

I absolutely believe in social equality for everyone but identifying as a woman socially and being female are two very different things.

(I'm happy to discuss this but if you start hissing and spitting about my being a TERF or a transphobe I will ignore you and block you and never give you or your opinions another thought.)

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Well then I wasn't talking about you.