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[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 24 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, cause it's fiction idiot. You know, the thing where we can have clear cut situations that are entirely black and white. Where one side is entirely evil and the entire one pure good. Reality fucking sucks

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Also, it was a long, long time ago.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Yup. Often when "It is a period of civil war" the rebels are horrible people, as we saw in the US civil war. Also Star Wars takes a lot from WWII, a conflict where an Alliance (Allies) defeated an Empire. Actually multiple Empires.

The uniforms of the Star Wars Empire look a lot like the German Empire, and the trench run was like a dam-busting bombing run and Hoth was like Dunkirk. But the allies had significantly more resources than the Empires had in WWII. Also the Allies was the side that built a super weapon.

So... what should we learn from Star Wars? I dunno... fascism is bad even if they might have cool uniforms. That and... pew pew pew voom voom.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

That's the fun part about Palestine. Reality rarely gets as black and white as it is there.

And still our country is cheering for black.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This post could support both sides

Just like in the movies, if you only tell the story from one side. You could ignore the October attack and sympathize with Palestine

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That is like sympathizing with the Nazis and the Jews in WW2 at the same time.

Many people sympathized with the Nazis in WW2. Everything was so much more gray black then. But then we found out that "wait Genocide is bad this is actually pretty black and white.' And so it is with Palestine which is currently under attack by the modern day Nazis.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Okay since you appear to already sympathize with Palestine and can’t seem to understand my post because of it

You could ignore the civilian attacks by the IDF and sympathize with Israel

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yes they have a saying for that.

wir haben es nicht gewußt

[–] Fisherswamp@programming.dev -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hamas launches rockets from schools and hospitals, kills other Muslims who cooperate with Israel

Has in its founding charter the death of all Jews

Rarely gets as black and white as it is there

🤔

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When you lie about everything it becomes gray indeed. Good job.

[–] Fisherswamp@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which claim was a lie? I'd be happy to provide sources

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure provide sources Hamas fired rockets from schools during the current Genocide.

[–] Fisherswamp@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure. Here's a Jpost article. The language is right-leaning and incendiary, but the pictures are real.

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-769701

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-jerusalem-post/

Here's another source: https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/defense/1671035706-israeli-army-reveals-hamas-rocket-launching-sites-near-3-schools-in-gaza

Here's a UNRWA source:

https://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-condemns-placement-rockets-second-time-one-its-schools?__cf_chl_tk=sw7xpsjwwiv2zxg.xxpccjmlbex9ex4g_2nrci7lryu-1717944335-0.0.1.1-4649

To be honest, it's a bit embarrassing that you're invested at all in this horrible conflict without even realizing who Hamas is, or what they stand for. Hamas is famous for using civilians as human shields, and it is no secret that they continue to do so.

Here's a link from Yale University that has Hamas' founding charter:

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious

The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

We should not forget to remind every Moslem that when the Jews conquered the Holy City in 1967, they stood on the threshold of the Aqsa Mosque and proclaimed that "Mohammed is dead, and his descendants are all women."

Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people. "May the cowards never sleep."

Keep in mind, I'm not saying that innocent people being bombed by Israel is okay, but don't pretend that Hamas are freedom fighters. They'd love nothing more than to enact a second Holocaust, and they're religious fanatics in every sense of the word.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Your UNRWA report says "found in vacant school" not fired so no.

What does the new Hamas charter say? You can't read the old one so they spelled it out for you. Go search chapter 16.

[–] Fisherswamp@programming.dev -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Keep reading friend

The school is situated between two other UNRWA schools that currently each accommodate 1,500 internally displaced persons.

And yes, at the time the rockets were discovered they were not actively being fired. It's still a war crime to store them in a school.

If you're talking about the 2017 propaganda piece, yeah. Gullible leftists like you who need a star wars storyline railroaded into complicated real world conflicts would love to believe that, but actions speak louder than words. Most of the hostages taken during October 7th were not soldiers, they were innocent civilians. Some of them weren't even Israeli

https://pco.gov.ph/news_releases/filipino-national-pacheco-freed-by-hamas-pbbm

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

What does chapter 16 of the Hamas charter say?