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L.A. County wants to cap rent hikes at 3%. Landlords say that would push them to sell
(www.latimes.com)
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Comparing across the nation doesn't really matter in things like real estate where prices, inflow vs outflow of people etc vary wildly, particularly when talking about the actual impact on the average person within the locality.
"Cherry picked by source to increase clicks" what sort of landlord boot licking is this lmao. Amherst Holdings (owns almost 40,000 homes nationally), Pretium Partners (owns around 80,000 homes nationally), and Invitation Homes (also around 80,000 nationally) own through subsidiaries 11% of all single family homes across metro Atlanta for rental purposes.
This isn't opinion or spin, it is fact.
Most of their ownership (9.2% of that 11%) is from houses in the lower half of median home value, effectively ripping those inventories out of the market for first time home buyers and inflating the price of those tiers of homes for first time home buyers.
Maybe you're confused about what "Metro Atlanta" means. It's not just the City of Atlanta. Metro Atlanta is spread across 5 counties, from the heart of downtown to some real yeehaw rural areas of the outer counties.
0.2% nationally != 0.2% locally.
https://news.gsu.edu/2024/02/26/researchers-find-three-companies-own-more-than-19000-rental-houses-in-metro-atlanta/
Link to the research: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/24694452.2023.2278690
Read it for yourself.
That's a bad-faith comparison and shows you are unserious about the very real issue some localities face with investment firms holding "cheap" single family homes as indefinite rental income, or just butthurt my data disproved your application of a BROAD GENERALIZATION to a specific region. Likely the latter.
The actual statistic NATIONALLY is lower because it is an aggregation of MULTIPLE MARKETS. If you want to find out what is happening in a local market you look at the local statistics if available which is what I provided you.
You have not proven me wrong lol. I gave you the research laid out proving three entities, through almost 200 shell companies and LLCs, own 1 out of every 9 single family homes in the metro Atlanta area. That is the ONLY argument I was making - that in the ATL market the percentage is much higher than 0.2%.
You can say "no u rong me rite durrrrr" all you want but you are undeniably incorrect about what I said.
Your condescending tone is noted so I'll just be insulting now: you are a fucking idiot who is so butthurt I provided evidence against your non-factual claim that locally the percentage is the same that you've elected to stick your dumb cunt fingers in your digital ears and go LALAALALALALALALALALAA like a jackass. Fuck off.
ETA: FROM YOUR OWN FUCKING LINK YOU ABSOLUTE BRAINLET: "The analysis found that the investors were heavily concentrated in some fast-growing areas, such as Atlanta and Jacksonville, Fla. Institutional investors own 10 percent of all single-family rental properties in Atlanta and 8.5 percent in Jacksonville, the study said."
GEE who was right? Certainly not you ya fuckin troglodyte
"Wow you sound angry" yeah dealing with braindead morons does make me angry, particularly when they argue a point their own fucking article disproves..
I gave you data for the market I was talking about. Your own article gave you data for the market I was talking about. Who did it align with? Yours or mine? I'll give you a hint, not yours. "Stay in school" your dumb ass can't read.
The "thinking for yourself" quip is a mask slipping moment for you. Denying reality must be fun.
It did prove my point which is to say it is a problem in certain locations e.g. Atlanta. I never argued against the overall national average. I understand your brain cells are working overdrive here but holy shit.
I've been making the same point since my first reply to you. My position has never changed, which is a correction to your insinuation that the corporate ownership of single family homes as rental properties isn't ultimately a big deal because it's a small amount overall
Here's what you said:
It's only a miniscule fraction NATIONALLY. That's why I said what I originally said about Atlanta in my initial reply, where there IS a very real problem of available inventory because 1/9 homes are owned by national corporations. It's not a myth for everyone.
Then you said my data was wrong (for which your own WP article said I was right,) which I already said was explicitly about the metro Atlanta area, not the nation. Then you double and triple downed with a pinch of condescension and dickishness. Then I called you a dumb cunt.
You could've just said "oops my bad, I misread your comment" which you either did or have just been trolling this whole time.
For what it's worth I do agree with you that landlords selling would be good, regardless of the local, regional, or national quantity of single family homes owned by national corporations. That was never in question for me. Just the first part.
"That sounds like an Atlanta problem" one can only reasonably address this issue locally/regionally. To paint broad strokes with the national average is CRAZY disingenuous given addressing inventory deficiencies isn't like shipping a widget from Omaha to Los Angeles.
Most people need to not worry about the national average because it is skewed (speaking of - what is the actual distribution?) - they need to worry about wherever they actually are.
ETA addressing the last paragraph of your comment: agreed! That is something to be celebrated. Wallowing in doomerism certainly doesn't help anyone but let's also not pretend this isn't a very real problem people face (home unavailability).