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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

OpenJDK is released under the GPL. That requires making any patents available for free to users.

They could theoretically change their mind and try some shit, but the GPL is hard to go "backsies" on.

[–] paf0@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Feel free to use it, as long as you're willing to pay lawyers to fight them when they decide otherwise.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're just spreading FUD now.

[–] paf0@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's just my reasoning as to why I won't use Oracle products. Feel free to put your own company at risk.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I f'ing love how you're blaming me personally. Don't be a dick.

BTW - don't mistake "cynicism" for "reasoning".

[–] paf0@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I have my own company, my choices matter, you should blame whomever made that choice for you.

It's not necessarily cynicism if it's based on previous patterns of behavior. Oracle reveals themselves to be run by bullies again and again and I choose to not put myself at risk. You do you.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s not necessarily cynicism if it’s based on previous patterns of behavior.

It's exactly what it is because you're ignoring facts that contradict your position because "I've been hurt before". The OpenJDK license is currently the MOST permissive it's ever been. And that was done by Oracle which is shocking to me.

The GPL is an old and well accepted license and there are lots of groups who will jump to defend it. And there are lots of companies backing the OpenJDK that aren't Oracle. Oracle would need to fight Amazon, Microsoft, IBM (RedHat), the Eclipse Foundations, etc. if they wanted to change that.

[–] paf0@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, no, I will not go back to my abuser because they say it's different this time.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] paf0@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Buddy I'd love to introduce you to reality some day.

[–] paf0@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] paf0@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Depends on how you "introduce me to reality"

Do you always make vague threats when someone disagrees with you on the internet?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you always take sarcastic insults as threats?

[–] paf0@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not usually. Are you always this poor of a communicator?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you're just a bit thick.

[–] paf0@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

You're having the same conversation with me on multiple threads and it's me who is thick? It seems like you're personally insulted when someone does not choose the tech stack that you identify with. It's a language, not a religion, you're going to be ok. I have my reasons not to like it and you do not have to approve. Get over yourself.