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Bats are cool

Bats are the only true flying mammals. There are over 1,400 species of bats, and they can be found on nearly every part of the planet. Not only are they cute, they are also important...

Studying how bats use echolocation has helped scientists develop navigational aids for the blind. Without bats’ pollination, seed dispersal, and pest control we wouldn’t have bananas, avocados, mangoes, agave, or cacao… that’s right, bats bring us tequila and chocolate!

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I see what you did there. I'm not taking the bait. I know that bats and birds are the same clade. I don't buy into the fake-news media trying to tell us they're distinct creatures. If they were, why would they both have wings, huh? HUH SMARTASS?!

/s

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Here's the thing. You said a "bats and birds are the same clade."

Are they in the same phylum? Yes. No one's arguing that.

As someone who is a scientist who studies bats, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls bats birds. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.

If you're saying "the same clade" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Scrotifera, which includes things from tigers to rhinos to pangolins.

So your reasoning for calling bats and birds the same is because random people "call the flying ones birds?" Let's get dragonflies and flying fish in there, then, too.

Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A bat is a bat and a member of the Chordata phylum. But that's not what you said. You said bats and birds are the same clade, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the Chordata phylum birds, which means you'd call elephants, lions, and other mammals birds too. Which you said you don't.

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I wasn't trying to bait anything. I suppose I just read the OP as if it was painting bats as special in this particular way, and I was questioning that.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago

I figured this:

I thought all birds used the magnetic field to navigate.

Was looking for a "bats aren't birds" response, to which there would be a clever reply. Guess I read into it.

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are you out of your mind?? Bats are rodents!

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Bats are bugs. I read it in a book!