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[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 41 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's really not. At least no more than it has been in the past

[-] Kastorlain@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah standard of living overall is factually better than at any other point in the last few hundred years.

Medicine alone has made getting to or living past your mid-30’s far less hard or filled with pain - even for those in poverty.

And hell I’d argue that if the original commenter really believes it’s a dystopian shit-show…it’s crystal clear how to make your own lot better.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah standard of living overall is factually better than at any other point in the last few hundred years.

Really depends on who you are and where you live. I'm watching my Houston ISD getting torn apart before my eyes. Police were running around UH campus clubbing students and dragging them into squad cars just a few weeks ago. The derecho that blew through downtown knocked out 5-10% of the windows in various buildings and killed the power for a few days. Electricity costs have doubled in the last ten years, while summer heat is up a sold five degrees Fahrenheit on average.

Is my standard of living better than it was for someone living in the city a generation ago? Doesn't look like it. But hey, we've got weird new AI and the stock market is very up. Is it better than someone living in Houston in 1824? Yeah... I guess? But so much of that seems to hinge on having electricity and running water. And the more pipes keep bursting and lines keep getting knocked down, the less reliable these services seem.

Medicine alone has made getting to or living past your mid-30’s far less hard

Average life expectancy has been over 60 years of age since at least the 19th century. A lot of that came entirely out of the advent of vaccinations.

Good think we're not having trouble convincing people to get vaccinated in the modern era, I guess.

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Not to forget, how we now "only" work 40h (for most people), but productivity went up and a lot of down times and social interaction in the past, were replaced by workload grind in a now stressful office environments.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

we now “only” work 40h

That's a deceptive estimate, as the number of employment hours worked across the household has jumped considerably higher. Two income families are the norm while children in low income households are routinely press-ganged into service - either as additional hires or as unpaid support for the primary worker (aiding parents as field workers while the field overseer turns a blind eye, for instance).

productivity went up and a lot of down times and social interaction in the past, were replaced by workload grind in a now stressful office environments.

Longer commutes, fewer public spaces and services, more haphazard schedules (more and more people working traditional "weekend" periods, particularly in retail, service, and transportation sectors), and more unreliable gig work. Absolutely.

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

People in the ukraine are like: man this is great, imagine living in the 30's

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