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[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 41 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

It's really not. At least no more than it has been in the past

[–] crazyCat@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, there are tons of things to make better and improve on, but things could be a lot freaking worse. (For more people, anyway, for too many people it’s already terrible currently, e.g. Gaza, Ukraine, Sudan, Yemen, Haiti … )

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The same people that quote that these are the least violent and most progressive times we live in will turn right around and say we're in an ever increasing dystopian hellhole despite all the scientific evidence to the contrary.

They will continue to bemoan mainstream media and social media pushing propaganda on them they continue to link on THEIR better social media.

You'll then be yelled at for Green washing and unironically saying that progressives are in the democratic party for a reason despite saying all politicians are the same from their useful idiot basements while pretending to be a Bernie Bro despite him endorsing Hilary, and Biden lol.

[–] akakunai@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What would you have Bernie do after loosing his primary?

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The point being that Hilary's and Bernie's platforms were near identical. They agreed and voted together on the same issues 94% of the time. More than any other candidate they had ever run with.

The progressive Democrats are not that different from mainstream Democrats not because they're so far right like everyone loves to espouse but from a constant track record of Democrats regularly becoming more progressive.

Don't believe bullshit internet memes and lies about centrist Democrats being far right. They're not. They're working in the framework of American culture and despite what everyone thinks is going to happen every time we get a forward thinking leader, the government is slow by design and quick changes are not reality for almost any government except dictatorships.

Having a benevolent dictatorship would be phenomenal. The form of government doesn't matter as long as lives are being bettered. Representative Democracy tends to keep it from going full on off the rails in the span of a decade though.

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The world looks like a horrible place, barely hanging on by a thread, until you step outside and see that society and the people in it are generally pretty chill.

Of course, that said, I don't live in the states. Everything could be literally on fire there for all I know.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

It's a pleasant surprise every time I visit how chill the US is, you see so much news and fear mongering but it's super friendly and nice everywhere I go.

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Except now there's nukes, end stage capitalism, and climate change... Sure up until like 100 years ago shit sucked hard for just about everyone, but at least there was no way they could literally end all life on earth

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Even if we set out to do so we couldn’t end all life on earth (literally)

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Lol, you high?

[–] Kastorlain@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah standard of living overall is factually better than at any other point in the last few hundred years.

Medicine alone has made getting to or living past your mid-30’s far less hard or filled with pain - even for those in poverty.

And hell I’d argue that if the original commenter really believes it’s a dystopian shit-show…it’s crystal clear how to make your own lot better.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah standard of living overall is factually better than at any other point in the last few hundred years.

Really depends on who you are and where you live. I'm watching my Houston ISD getting torn apart before my eyes. Police were running around UH campus clubbing students and dragging them into squad cars just a few weeks ago. The derecho that blew through downtown knocked out 5-10% of the windows in various buildings and killed the power for a few days. Electricity costs have doubled in the last ten years, while summer heat is up a sold five degrees Fahrenheit on average.

Is my standard of living better than it was for someone living in the city a generation ago? Doesn't look like it. But hey, we've got weird new AI and the stock market is very up. Is it better than someone living in Houston in 1824? Yeah... I guess? But so much of that seems to hinge on having electricity and running water. And the more pipes keep bursting and lines keep getting knocked down, the less reliable these services seem.

Medicine alone has made getting to or living past your mid-30’s far less hard

Average life expectancy has been over 60 years of age since at least the 19th century. A lot of that came entirely out of the advent of vaccinations.

Good think we're not having trouble convincing people to get vaccinated in the modern era, I guess.

[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not to forget, how we now "only" work 40h (for most people), but productivity went up and a lot of down times and social interaction in the past, were replaced by workload grind in a now stressful office environments.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

we now “only” work 40h

That's a deceptive estimate, as the number of employment hours worked across the household has jumped considerably higher. Two income families are the norm while children in low income households are routinely press-ganged into service - either as additional hires or as unpaid support for the primary worker (aiding parents as field workers while the field overseer turns a blind eye, for instance).

productivity went up and a lot of down times and social interaction in the past, were replaced by workload grind in a now stressful office environments.

Longer commutes, fewer public spaces and services, more haphazard schedules (more and more people working traditional "weekend" periods, particularly in retail, service, and transportation sectors), and more unreliable gig work. Absolutely.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

People in the ukraine are like: man this is great, imagine living in the 30's