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Ironic you say that because it's proven that the actors and staff of The Acolyte (and some in the Kenobi series as well) never saw a bit of star wars and have no basic knowledge of the property.
So it is an issue that fans complain how badly written the Acolyte is for the budget, even if they only heard about it from others or seeing clips, but it is no issue the cast and staff don't know a single thing about Star Wars lore but do force their own mind-canon of star wars on the fans ... ?
No you're right, the actors don't have to, but then they ALSO don't need to spout falsehoods about starwars like "Star Wars never had strong females", or 'Anakin blew up the Death star" like it was gospel ... as an actor for an IP if you don't know anything about it just say so and don't make toxic comments just to rile up people.
The actor playing the inquisitor in Kenobi said he knew nothing of star wars ... I don't recall anyone really flaming him personally for that (but the character was put through the wringer in writing).
I brought that up because if they don't know anything about SW, why did Lucasfilm put them out on the interviews to spout as much nonsense as possible? That is plain wrong.
Interestingly, the creator of Andor was not even a SW fan but he properly read up on the material and did not let himself be used for someone else's agenda by giving empty headed interviews.
Lawrence Kasdan had George Lucas beside him .... The crew of The Acolyte have someone next to them who is almost saying George Lucas shouldn't be Star Wars' creator.
If the writers don't know what entails star wars ... then why get upset if star wars fans don't recognize star wars in the product? It's not a magical faerie dust the Disney team sprinkles over it post production. No matter how much they'd like that. A good writer studies its subject and writes about it with passion, if neither are done you get drivel like "the power of one, shallala, the power of two, mulalala, the power of thr'many-y"
Final point, if they boast the outrageous 180M (movie!) budget, and up to epsode 3 out of 8 (at ~30 minutes a pop) it gives you that, it does not bode well for the rest of the show and it's a bad thing once again no one higher up pulled the brake on this... In you calling the complainers a fool (oops toxicity seeping in!), you absolutely miss the point, what is shown now is not up to the quality deserving such a budget, not even 30% at $60Million... but dividing it per episode would make you say it's unfair too because each episode has different effects etc. Even reviewing the series per episode is a no-no then because one can't see the whole series ... so reasoning with you on that is moot.
Other flopped SW series had far less of a budget to work with, and with more budget for the Acolyte it promised a lot, but the team still put out subpar writing ... again ... and it is the again that people are upset about. So I will quote someone: "Who is more foolish, the fool, or the one following him?" ... The people complaining are definitely not accepting the budgetary worth of the series so far.
In all, it is clear the people having heart for the IP are on the wrong side of the fence and their points and passions declared unsubstantial by the selfcentered other side.
But I bet if it does turn out to be amongst the best SciFi we have seen in a while there will be plenty of praise and no more complaints about the budget, anyone remember Andor?
Somehow I don't see it happening this time. Rebel Moon
The Acolyte is the best series since Andor, but that isn't saying much. I think 6/10 is far to generous and given the pattern these shows follow, it's only going to get worse.