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Ehh, the first scene of the first episode is questionable. It is 50/50 among reviews if it is done well. Clearly not perfect or the discourse wouldn't exist. SAO was contemporary had more violence of that nature. It was clearly ment to be fun in that show and people do not give it the same level of hate. There is a charitable reading of the work that sees the author ment to say sexual violence was bad. Which is far enough from mainstream anime opinion that I think people have trouble processing it.
i have to ask again, you think the problem people have with it is that it says sexual violence is bad? you think that's why people dislike it?
the sexual violence in sao is also supposed to be bad! they kill the guy who does it! that doesn't excuse the framing, it's still a bad show that handles its sexual assault poorly, but framing sexual violence for titillation is so often combined with setting up a villain and showing just how evil he is. it shows up all the fuckign time, including in series i otherwise love. goblin slayer is worse than most in that it spends more time on it and it's way more explicit than it usually is, and it's the first impression the show gives you
Yes. You rember the movie irreversible? It had pretty much the exact same discourse. The goal was to make a scene impossible to enjoy. However the nature of film is that is hard to do. We have hentai. We know what it looks like when that kinda thing is made to be enjoyed. It doesn't look like that. Obviously the execution was lacking or we wouldn't be having this conversation. I think the average anime fan's take on this is based on their discomfort with the scene and transferring their negative emotions to the show. Which is not completely invalid. I do not think the work deserves the work of getting past that. It never really earns the payoff for setting that scene up. However for the rest of the 23 episodes I think the show works in ways that are really dissimilar to other anime and is artistically interesting. If there was a recut that handles that first scene as they do it the rest of the work I think the reception would be entirely different.
However no, the sexual violence in SAO is supposed to be enjoyed. Some as titillating, and some as cathartic. In GS it is supposed to be grimdark and impossible to get catharsis from. The work doesn't accomplish it's goals fully. It comes enough to be interesting though I think
Hold on, it's been a long time since I watched the SAO anime and I never watched past the first two arcs. But I've read every SAO light novel that is translated to English, and I'm pretty sure there are like maybe 3 or 4 total instances of attempted sexual violence in the entire thing, and none of them actually get anywhere.
I guess it depends where you draw the line. I am calling female characters being non-consentually posed at the camera by tentacles sexual violence
Huh. I guess the anime must have really deviated from the books lol
Not that the books are good, they just don't have very many instances of that particular flavor of bullshit