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Collapsing Empire: Georgia and Russia Restore Relations (www.kitklarenberg.com)

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[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

a conservative ploy to establish an authoritarian kleptocracy

Not sure why you always have to specify "conservative". Would it be better if it was liberals doing it?

And "authoritarian kleptocracy"? How much liberal media have you been consuming? They always love using these terms when refering to Russia but they never actually explain why Russia's capitalism is so much worse than the West's. Don't western states have police that they use to crack down on serious dissent? (Have you not been paying attention to the Palestine protests?) Don't their capitalists bribe the government and steal from the working class?

This isn't "authoritarian kleptocracy" (or whatever other newspeak liberal media comes up with next so they don't have to reveal their orientalism/chauvinism and just say what they mean which is "eastern barbarism"). It's just capitalism doing what capitalism always does.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Not sure why you always have to specify "conservative". Would it be better if it was liberals doing it?

Liberals are conservative, I was speaking about economics.

How much liberal media have you been consuming? They always love using these terms when refering to Russia but they never actually explain why Russia's capitalism is so much worse than the West's.

It's just a political term for capitalism but with a more structured hierarchy of distribution and control to a smaller amount of people. I can let you come up with an excuse why it's not worse.

Don't western states have police that they use to crack down on serious dissent? (Have you not been paying attention to the Palestine protests?) Don't their capitalists bribe the government and steal from the working class?

I'm not defending "the west". If it's bad when america does it, it's also bad when Russia doesn't. Not everything has to happen in the vacuum of a false dichotomy.

This isn't "authoritarian kleptocracy" (or whatever other newspeak liberal media comes up with next so they don't have to reveal their orientalism/chauvinism and just say what they mean which is "eastern barbarism"). It's just capitalism doing what capitalism always does.

Lol, as an Asian person it's kinda hilarious that you think Russia is considered an "eastern country", when they and anyone actually in the east consider them a western nation.