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Me any time my team discusses the notion of moving our standup to before core hours
That doesn't even make sense. The earliest standups should be is when core hours start.
Ikr
That doesn't stop the "but it's disruptive to have it 2h into my day"
You chose this life mate
Them: "I just wake up at 4 a.m. naturally and can't seem to sleep in!"
Also them: "Have you tried to bed and waking up earlier? All it takes is practice!"
I mean honestly yeah after working multiple jobs for years I had to wake up around 4 to be able to get off work around 2 to make it to my second job at 3 now even though I have a single job I still get up at 4 it's just ingrained at this point, thr benefit is I still get off at 230 and if people want me to stay past that at least it's over time pay
As the opposite to this it takes me a solid month to get to a point where getting up for work at 8 doesn't kill me. It takes all of an afternoon nap to flip back to my preferred sleep pattern of 2am to 10am. I CAN get up early, me and my meatsuit really don't seem to want to though.
I have spent the last two decades being absolutely miserable because I have to get up at 6 a.m. and my body has never adjusted. No, it doesn't matter how long I sleep, if I get up before 8 a.m. then no amount of sleep is going to make me feel rested.
When I take vacations and get up around 8:00 then I feel fine all day.
It's down to your chronotype, according to recent research.
Everyone has one and it basically boils down to your body's ideal sleep schedule. Some people are more predisposed to going to sleep earlier and therefore walking up earlier (10pm-6am is a pretty common one apparently), others are more predisposed to a later schedule such as 2am-10am. Some people need longer, some need less.
The big thing is, you can force yourself out of what your body would prefer, but it's pretty much always at the cost of alertness and mood and it will never feel natural.
The problem we have now though is the 10pm-6am crowd has the world designed around their schedule with the incorrect assumption that everyone should just do what they do and it's just poor discipline preventing others from getting on board.
No amount of blue light filters, digital hygiene and eating earlier is going to change your body's preference, unfortunately.
Maybe they should try staying awake until after 21h
Personally, comedy routines shouldn’t start before happy hour, at the earliest.
And I’m not entirely sold on the team building…
If only standups were near as pleasurable as watching a comedy routine. No, Jim, we don't need to hear your day minute by minute. It isn't that hard, Jim, just keep it to the same length as everyone else, Jim. (Jim has since been talked to about this)
I dunno. I shudder at the thought of certain individuals trying a standup comedy routine. If the karaoke happy hour was anything to go by... there's not enough booze in the world to make that painless; and they frown on drinking at these team building things anyhow.
If I'm in an interview and I hear the company call business hours "core hours", I'm immediately running. That is corporate jargon straight from capitalist hell. They don't even hide that they're trying to own our lives now, so they say "non-core hours" to try to normalize working at 8pm.
My work does. But it's not business hours. It's like 9-3. It's when they suggest most people be available for meetings, calls. So when people flex their schedules, they'd prefer it if most people were still available at that time.
Where I worked, "core hours" were 10:00-14:00. You had to work 8 hours at any time you want, including the core hours. So 10:00-18:00, 6:00-14:00, or whatever you want in-between. I found it quite nice.