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[–] Voidance@hexbear.net 38 points 5 months ago (4 children)

They’re strategy is to make life ‘annoying’ enough that rich people will react to everyone begging them to stop destroying the planet. I doubt they’re actually feds, I think they’re just run and funded by bougie morons

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

At least this is more effective than standing in front of a building holding up a sign.

Escalation is good. Hopefully this encourages some people to be a little more bold, take a little more risk...

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago

They’re strategy is to make life ‘annoying’ enough that rich people will react

Stopping highways and stuff makes life annoying for not rich people, and they predictably react by saying "fuck the climate and fuck these kids" or something like that

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Are they really not the least bit self aware? I've not seen a single person in my environment react positively to these kinds of stunts.

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think that's the point, they are trying to make life increasingly annoying for everyone, especially westerners, until climate change is adequately addressed. I can backseat activist all day and nitpick what they're doing, but honestly it's more direct action than I've ever done for the climate

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think that's the point, they are trying to make life increasingly annoying for everyone, especially westerners, until climate change is adequately addressed.

I don't think it works like that tho. Like do they honestly expect the average person is going to be "yeah these activists sure are inconveniencing me with blocking traffic and throwing paint and stuff, let us change our entire political and economic order so they shut up about it already"? I mean I'd very much like to be wrong here if that's what it really takes I'm gonna be personally throwing paint at all kinds of shit but I just don't see it.

I can backseat activist all day and nitpick what they're doing, but honestly it's more direct action than I've ever done for the climate

I can somewhat agree with that, I don't think what they're doing is inherently wrong or harmful or whatever, I just don't think it's really having any impact.

[–] ParetoOptimalDev 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is it better for people ignoring environmental issues to be comfortable or mildly annoyed, assuming they aren't taking action either way?

[–] Voidance@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The problem is working class activists are taking the hit for the wealthy people funding these organisations. And they are taking risks and devoting their time to a strategy which we know will not work, and which doesn’t just disdain popular support but is specifically antagonistic to it. I don’t doubt the activists hearts are in the right place, but I also don’t think they will achieve anything positive. It’s not an ethics thing, it’s a question of what’s actually practical.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

If I remember right one of their primary sponsors is the heiress to the Getty oil family.