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[–] geophysicist@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Batteries are expensive, range causes anxiety, a small battery is possible in a hybrid thus price is lower

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah and new plug in hybrids get like 50 miles or so of range. So most people can use that for work commutes and everyday stuff, etc, but still have the gas engine for their long road trips

[–] br3d@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Except people don't plug in their hybrids and run them on fossil fuels. Hybrids are yet another way the FF industry keeps itself going while pretending things are being fixed

[–] Buelldozer 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Since the study was from Europe I'm going to assume that the primary thing holding people back from plugging in is that they can't. Many, if not most, of them will live in multi-tenant dwellings and most of those dwellings likely don't have the infrastructure to make it possible.

It's the same problem that apartment dwellers here in the US have, there's nowhere convenient to recharge.

[–] muppeth@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah infra is the issue. Which is stupid as providing simple (16A) socket per car would be sufficient solution for most cars. You come back from work or your commute and just plug the car to slow charger. Over night you are charged enough for next day.

[–] geophysicist@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

The average real-world electric driving share is about 45%–49% for private cars and about 11%–15% for company cars.

I would argue that 45% electric driving is still significant. Company cars not being used similarly likely has a deeper issue

[–] muppeth@scribe.disroot.org 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nah. Anxiety is something you have for first month owning your first EV. Once you adjust to the different way of using the car you realize you drive the same way as petroleum car. One important thing is being able to charge at home IMO. Even from just a socket (16A) is sufficient for most daily cases.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Charging at home is only for those who live in houses though. Or at least have some indoor parking spot.

[–] muppeth@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's undoubtedly perk of having a house, parking or dedicated spot. But even without those at least here in NL infrastructure as is is pretty good even for those without didcated charging spot. I thin what should be easily done is slow charging spot on every parting spot. Cost wise it's not much and pulling max 2.5kw should not be much of an issue for the grid. In that way every car would have a dedicated charging to fill up over night if needed. Cost of such implementation wouldn't be to big either.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's cool. But I doubt every place they park on the street or in counts as an official "parking spot".

[–] muppeth@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 4 months ago

Not everyone, but is majority is covered its fine (probably half of it would do the job). Usually parking places or places where you are allowed to park a car are marked so actually shouldn't be an issue.