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Idk if anyone had a similar problem before, but I live in EU by the countryside, at first there were only a few but now it happens more and more often to see drones passing over my house, I am sure they are civilian drones because law enforcement has no reason to use them since the area is quiet (and honestly I doubt they would be able to do so), however it bothers me enough to know that there are people who get over the fence and enter my property going to look at what they want, does anyone have any advice on what to do?

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[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 53 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I think you have the legal right to prohibit flying above your property. Do it, make a sign and report everyone who violates it to the police. Flying on someone's property with a camera drone is illegal anyways.

EDIT: Also check if you legally can physically eliminate the drone in that case. It's the most effective strategy.

[–] diykeyboards@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (2 children)

OP is in EU, but here in the US property owners do not have rights to airspace.

However, spying with cameras or nuisance noise would be reasons for legal action.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Could I shoot one down if it were spying on me?

[–] hakobo@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Not in the US. You can report it to the police and the FAA, but it's a federal felony offense to shoot down any aircraft, regardless of whether it's a $100 drone or multi-million dollar full on airplane. But like the other poster said, voyeurism and harassment laws still apply. And also, if the pilot is out of sight of the drone, that's a hefty FAA violation (assuming they don't have a specific FAA waiver that's hard to get) and something you can report.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In the US, you own the airspace up to the highest point of your property, including structures (and maybe trees). You also technically own your underground property to the center of the earth, but you may not have mineral rights to it.

[–] aeharding@vger.social 1 points 4 months ago

you own the airspace up to the highest point of your property

Nope. Part 103 pilots often fly inches off the ground and it’s totally legal- usually farm fields. This is called class G airspace and extends from surface to 700 or 1200 ft AGL. The United States government has exclusive sovereignty of airspace in the US from the surface up, and any citizen has the right of transit through that airspace.

[–] Deckweiss@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Honest question, but I couldn't help but package it sarcastically:

How would you report that? Catch the drone and ask who it's owner is? Ask the police to do a 100 man wide area search around your house?

[–] hakobo@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

New drones being sold in the USA are equipped with something called remote ID. In theory, it enables law enforcement to wirelessly identity the drone, who it's registered with, and where the pilot is standing. This is very new though, and very few, if any, police departments have the tools needed to make use of it. It's also possible to read remote ID from phones, but without the database, it only gives you so much info. Owners of older drones are supposed to attach a remote ID module to them in order to maintain legal flying, but someone being voyeuristic with their older drone probably isn't following the rules.

[–] baggins@beehaw.org 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

EDIT: Also check if you legally can physically eliminate the drone in that case. It’s the most effective strategy.

Just tell the police you were clay pigeon shooting and the drone flew into your path.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

Well that works but it's better to keep everything legal to avoid assigned surveillance

[–] ByteWelder@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That’s incorrect. At least as a generalization. For example: In The Netherlands, you do not own the airspace above your property. The EU laws for drones do state that you can’t just film people without permission, though. Operators of camera drones also need to register and get an operator id.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Hmm it isn't the first reply that says it so I guess airspace isn't owned by the property owner in the EU. Very unfortunate but not that big of a deal. I hope at least shooting down a camera drone can be considered self defense there.