this post was submitted on 21 Jun 2024
57 points (78.2% liked)

vegan

2545 readers
61 users here now

Please also check out vegantheoryclub.org for a great set of well-run communities for vegan news, cooking, gardening, and art. It is not federated with LW, but it is a nice, cozy, all-in-one space for vegans.


We ask that the you have an understanding on what veganism is before engaging in this community.

If you think you have been banned erroneously, please get in contact with one of the other mods for appeals.

Moderator reports may not federate properly and may delay moderator action. Please DM an active mod if an abusive comment remains after reporting it.


Welcome

Welcome to c/vegan@lemmy.world. Broadly, this community is a place to discuss veganism. Discussion on intersectional topics related to the animal rights movement are also encouraged.

What is Veganism?

'Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals ...'

— abridged definition from The Vegan Society

Rules

The rules are subject to change, especially upon community feedback.

  1. Discrimination is not tolerated. This includes speciesism.
  2. Topics not relating to veganism are subject to removal.
  3. Posts are to be as accessible as practicable:
    • pictures of text require alt-text;
    • paywalled articles must have an accessible non-paywalled link.
  4. Content warnings are required for triggering content.
  5. Bad-faith carnist rhetoric & anti-veganism are not allowed, as this is not a space to debate the merits of veganism. Anyone is welcome here, however, and so good-faith efforts to ask questions about veganism may be given their own weekly stickied post in the future (see current stickied discussion).
    • before jumping into the community, we encourage you to read examples of common fallacies here.
    • if you're asking questions about veganism, be mindful that the person on the other end is trying to be helpful by answering you and treat them with at least as much respect as they give you.
  6. Misinformation, particularly that which is dangerous or has malicious intent, is subject to removal.

Resources on Veganism

A compilation of many vegan resources/sites in a Google spreadsheet:

Here are some documentaries that are recommended to watch if planning to or have recently become vegan:

Vegan Fediverse

Lemmy: vegantheoryclub.org

Mastodon: veganism.social

Other Vegan Communities

General Vegan Comms

!vegan@lemmy.ml

!vegan@hexbear.net

!vegan@vegantheoryclub.org

!vegan@slrpnk.net

Circlejerk Comms

!vegancirclejerk@lemmy.ml

Vegan Food / Cooking

!homecooks@vegantheoryclub.org

!veganrecipes@sh.itjust.works

!recipes@vegantheoryclub.org

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/17066438

They're usually shredded alive almost immediately because they're seen as "waste" since they don't lay eggs

For some more context:

Why the egg industry 'shreds' baby chicks alive (NSFL)

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Considering the chicks don't know what's coming, it's probably not a terrible way to go. It's gruesome, but it's over in an instant. Factory farming in general is a horror show, and this is one of the least inhumane ways animals are killed for profit.

[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My brother in Christ they are literally put through a meat grinder alive. Put a human through a meat grinder that’s 10x bigger than your body while conscious, anyone gonna say that person died peacefully?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not peacefully, no. But instantaneous death beats a lot of the other variations of unconscionable suffering visited upon factory farm animals.

A human would be aware of what is happening, and the size difference would mean you would need a much larger machine than that to instantaneously destroy an entire person. But if you had to choose between instantaneous obliteration and a slow, torturous existence, some people might actually choose the instant death.

[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don’t get this “it could have been worse” mentality. Somebody dies of cancer we don’t say “well at least they weren’t waterboarded and gang raped! Lucky them!”

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

You don't understand how a quick death is better than a lifetime of torture and an eventual slow death?

It's not like there is a pack of gang-raping waterboarding guys waiting outside the cancer wards waiting to waterboard and gang rape all the cancer survivors. If there were, there might be a few who don't fight cancer as hard.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Have you never heard the phrase "died peacefully in his sleep" or "at least it was quick"?

[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 0 points 3 months ago

Meat grinder is not equal to dying peacefully in one’s sleep. A bullet to the head is also quick but we don’t celebrate muggings turned homicide. It’s not that I don’t get the point being made it’s that it’s a weird fucking point to make

[–] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they were sent through one by one, maybe. But you wanna bet they're just literally shoveled into a hopper on top of each other while in sheer terror or being trampled to death by the others? You ever meet an animal? Do you really believe there's no understanding of a bad situation?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've met baby chicks. They're adorable, and about as self-aware as a furby. I'm not saying they don't suffer, but they don't suffer terror or panic the way a human would. And considering the life of a factory farm chicken, they definitely suffer less.

Either way, we should end inhumane factory farming practices. If we stop torturing chickens for food, we will also stop shoveling baby chicks into a meat grinder.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

No they don't suffer terror or panic as a human would, they suffer terror and panic in a way a chicken would, it's still terror and panic. They also suffer pain, I imagine being ripped to death would be quite painful, human or not.

[–] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh good.... and here I was horrified thinking that had to be one of the worst ways to go...

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You're right, it is a horrible way to go. It's just not the worst.