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[–] s20@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is horrifying of course, but I feel like coming out of a German politician in particular it's a bit of a red flag.

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is it any different because they are German?

I know what you are going to say, but we are a globalized world now and there are fascists in all governments

[–] s20@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because history?

Like, I know the world is globalized now, and so are fascists, but that doesn't change the past century of events.

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah whatever, Germany is not the same Germany you are thinking of anymore. Germany has been made into a convenient scapegoat and you fell for it.

[–] s20@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude, based on that Article, Germans had the same reaction I did. The difference is that I don't care as much, because my own country is slowly descending into fascism, while you guys (I'm assuming you're German) seem to have a lock on it.

I don't have to be afraid of Germany because (almost) everyone there was horrified and reacted with disgust. Your representatives and political thinkers seem to think that this guy is an asshole, and because of German history, Germany has a responsibility to stand up and say "Fuck You" to guys like this, especially when they're German.

I don't have to worry about Germany because Germany hasn't forgotten what happens when fascism infects a country. My country, on the other hand, has apparently forgotten, and the whole fucking world should be terrified.

It can never happen here is the attitude that lets it happen. That applies whether it's happened before or not. I know Germany is very different from what is was in the 1930s. I fucking lived there in the 90s. I'm not worried about Germany. It's still a bad look.

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Good comment. I'm Canadian, but if you go to Germany today, you cannot avoid the holocaust memorials saying "we will not let this happen again". They are literally everywhere.

That said, I think that is in the past for Germany, and we need to be carefully watching places like Israel, China, that sort of thing. I don't think that this German is anymore concerning than the fascists running for government here in Canada though. I mean even nazi salute will land you in jail in Germany, that country is night and day compared to nazi rule. Germany is a left leaning nation now especially with the influx of immigration. I think it is time to stop blaming Germany for fascism in the world.

[–] s20@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, I'm not blaming Germany. Far from it. They didn't invent fascism. And I'm well aware of Germany's leftist leanings, their current track record concerning immigrants, and their position as a current moral world leader.

And I am concerned about China and fascists running for office in Canada... but I'm a bit preoccupied by the fascism here in the States right now. Well, the white nationalist shit, too. Also the rise of right-wing terrorism that our press refuses to call terrorism because it's being committed by white people I guess?

I don't think we're all that far apart, worldview wise. I'm just maybe a bit more sensitive to all this shit because we elected The Orange Menace.

Also, because we don't have Tim Horton's.

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You so do have Tim Hortons. Burger King bought them some years ago.

[–] s20@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Burger King? Really?

I did not know that. That's a damn shame. Sorry about that.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A red flag with a black cross on it

[–] s20@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Cross's broken, dude. (j/k)