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[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 136 points 4 days ago

I have an in-law that’s a teacher, and she says it’s fucking crazy how radicalized some kids are. Her coworkers have dealt with 11 year old boys straight up telling female teachers they don’t have to listen to them because they’re women.

They’re apparently always talking about shithead influencers like Andrew Tate too, and the ones that aren’t down the pipeline are definitely still heavily exposed to the ideas. Real disturbing shit.

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I really think the left have lost a whole ass generation and don't even realize it.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Nah, some of have been calling out right wing propaganda and the impact it's having on the political scene for a while now. And it's not just teens. Right wing propaganda has infested the left as well, to the point where you still have people repeating confirmed propaganda from the 2016 election because they've internalized it and can't let it go.

It's not that the left has bad messaging or unpopular ideas, it's that there are a ton of cynics under the big tent. Cynics who actively poison outreach efforts because they are intellectually lazy, but love their own farts.

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 days ago

It's not that the left has bad messaging or unpopular ideas

Good ideas, but terrible messaging. For example, imagine you wanted to sell Appalachia on the idea that the coal market is in decline so we should look at expanding other market sectors in the region so the entire region doesn't increasingly resemble dead mine towns as time goes on. What's the single worst possible way you could try to express that idea to those people?

"I'm going to put a lot of coal companies and coal miners out of business" - Hillary Clinton, 2016.

[-] wieson@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago
[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago

As far as the US goes, Democrats are basically the best you get that has any chance of winning an election and she was their choice for 2016. I even held my nose and voted for her in the general (but not in the primary).

I won't argue that progressives and the like shouldn't be trying to either drag the party leftward or organize at a scale that they can actually win elections at some levels without needing the name Democrat behind them.

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