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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 139 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I have an in-law that’s a teacher, and she says it’s fucking crazy how radicalized some kids are. Her coworkers have dealt with 11 year old boys straight up telling female teachers they don’t have to listen to them because they’re women.

They’re apparently always talking about shithead influencers like Andrew Tate too, and the ones that aren’t down the pipeline are definitely still heavily exposed to the ideas. Real disturbing shit.

[–] toothpaste_sandwich@feddit.nl 74 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hoo boy there's a little tidbit I'd rather not know

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I’m hoping that it’s just the gen z/alpha version of an edgy atheist phase that they outgrow. For what it’s worth she also says a lot of kids are way more chill about LGBT students, including being respectful of pronouns.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 31 points 4 months ago (2 children)

My experience with teenage atheists is that they usually remain atheists into adulthood.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 4 months ago (3 children)

They (hopefully) outgrow the edgy part, though, was my point.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think you might have picked the wrong topic, then. Atheism tends to be sincere and not just edgy.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I'm an atheist and that's why I specified the edgy part.

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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago

At least for atheism there's a non-edgy, civilized version. For whatever this is, I don't think you can make it more palatable without just throwing out the entire mindset

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Us former edgy atheists didn't go back to church (mostly)

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

We really should have taken the criticisms of television a million times more seriously. Also environmental concerns, but, i digress.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I really think the left have lost a whole ass generation and don't even realize it.

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[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 55 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I just found out the lady who cuts my dogs hair is a groomer. You just never know who you're dealing with I guess.

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[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (14 children)

I don’t disagree with any particular point - Christo-fascism is on the rise and it’s terrifying - but specifically the nazis were very much anti-church and thus anti-ten commandments lol

[–] wickedtruth@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (5 children)

No, no, he is right. Republican and Nazi are the same side of the coin.

To quote Hitler "We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity... in fact our movement is Christian."
Speech in Passau 27 October 1928

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 months ago

Republican and nazi are the same side of the coin

No argument here

[–] geissi@feddit.de 10 points 4 months ago

Not to weigh in on one side or the other but the Nazis claimed a lot of things.
That they were socialists, that Poland had attacked Germany...
I wouldn't rely on what they said.

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[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Nazis were very much Christian. Claiming otherwise is distorting the facts.

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

The nazi party espoused its own distinct, schismatic form of Christianity as it repressed Catholics and Protestants across the country. I am NO defender of the church but to act like churches/institutions weren’t attacked during that era is revisionist history. They were absolutely repressed, if certainly nowhere near as severely as Judaism was (which “repressed” doesn’t even come close to covering).

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So, they were attacking other religious sects and churches that were different than their specific version of Christianity?

That sounds like Christianity to me.

Just because it wasn't the form of Christianity we recognize today, doesn't mean it wasn't a valid religious movement. Sure, it specifically helped the Nazi party, but all the pieces of the puzzle to create their christo-fascist state were there for them to put together.

And they used Christianity to do it. Saying otherwise is being disingenuous and revisionist. They espoused Christianity. They espoused the teachings of Jesus. They claimed moral superiority just like every other religion does.

Sure, they used it to attack other religions to set theirs up as the state religion, but that doesn't make it less like Christianity. Just a form that doesn't exist today.

Repressing other religions is a cornerstone of most religions, including Christianity. To say otherwise is invoking apologetics.

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (20 children)

I'll be the first to admit that there is a huge overlap between evangelicals (who pushed this initiative) and racist/fascist pieces of shit - but the ten commandments in and of themselves have no link to nazi-ism. :p

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

but the ten commandments in and of themselves have no link to nazi-ism

Yeah nahhh, like the Buddhist symbol was co-opted by the Germans, the commandments are used as a dog whistle by fascists now.

If it was about being Christian they would have used the Beatitudes (words of Christ) not the commandments. If it was about being chest thumping American they'd put the cononsitiution there, speration of church and state etc.

We know WHY they don't use the Beatitudes, because theae fuckers are as close to being Christian as Hitler was to being Buddhist.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatitudes

Gandhi's famous quote summarizes whats so wrong with Christians doing stupid shit like pinning 10 Commandments to the wall, they have little resemblance to Christ

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ - Mohandas Gandhi

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I generally consider the (non-theist) Commandments to generally be generally good rules to live by.

I have to say the non-theist rules because several of them are about God and religion.... Like, having no other gods before [him], not taking the Lord's name in vain, the whole idols thing....

If you take all that theist stuff out, you basically get: don't lie, steal, cheat, or kill, don't covet others stuff, and respect your mother and father.

Pretty decent rules overall. At the very least, a good starting point.

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[–] PopShark@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (12 children)

Copy/Paste of an actual message I sent to my friend earlier today:

“You know if chemicals in rainwater were actually making frogs homosexual my family wouldn’t have such a problem every year with tadpoles in our swimming pool cover muck lol”

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[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's not true, I actually am trying to turn your kids gay because I know it makes you mad.

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