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[-] socphoenix@midwest.social 117 points 6 days ago

Out of the 151 breast reductions that were performed in 2019 on American minors, 146 (97 percent) were performed on cisgender males.

The thing is, growing up in an evangelical church they don’t want these people getting breast reduction surgery either. they firmly believe that any change to the body is going against God’s will regardless of the physical or mental harm it may cause.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 85 points 6 days ago

pretty sure they're okay with women getting boob implants, though.

[-] bizarroland@fedia.io 36 points 6 days ago

Idk, the #1 thing people said behind Dolly Parton's back and held against her was that she had fake tits.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

People are awful. If there’s nothing that they can be mean about, they’ll make shit up. I suspect most of that was more because she was rich/famous/influential in her own right rather than being tied to a husband.

(though she’s married. I looked it up outta curiosity. He doesn’t even have a Wikipedia page…

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago

Dolly's husband has never been a part of her public persona. He's always been in the background and almost everyone has respected his/her choice on the matter.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 points 6 days ago

absolutely true but Dolly Parton did not have to face transphobic harassment and violence

very very very important distinction

[-] socphoenix@midwest.social 3 points 6 days ago

That one did oddly enough draw less of a stink, though it did still get whispered about when it suited one’s purpose.

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago

Except male genital mutilation, aka circumcision. (Please don't take this as me saying FGM and MGM are equally bad. FGM is much, much worse.)

[-] Madrigal@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago

There are other forms of MGM too. Fortunately most of them are rare these days. Castration, subincision, penectomy.

And then there’s intersex people. That are routinely subject to “corrective surgery” in infancy. As adults they tend to be firmly of the opinion they should have been left alone and that the surgeries were harmful.

IMO bodily integrity and autonomy is a fundamental human right that should be absolutely respected for every human being.

[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

There are five grades of FGM; MGM is equivalent to hoodectomy, which is grade III.

The worst FGM is much, much worse that MGM, but the least-worst FGM is much less-worse than MGM.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

where do you cite this five grade model?

the world health organization is not quite in line with you here (CW, hopefully obvious explicit discussion of mutilation) thanks !

[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Hm, it's been a while since I've been active in this space, I'm quoting from memory. I'll look up some stuff.

[-] SqueakyBeaver@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago

Honestly, that's only because the Bible says it's a thing that should be done (apparently)

[-] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago

The Hebrew Bible maybe, but it's pretty clearly outlined by Paul in the new testament that non-jewish Catholics definitely don't have to follow Jewish custom (and don't have to be circumcised in particular)

[-] SqueakyBeaver@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago

True. It's been a while, heh.

[-] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago

You're good, I just think it's worth saying out loud. There's probably plenty of parents who do think the Bible says it, even though it doesn't

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 33 points 6 days ago

this should hilight to us the outsized effect transphobia has on discourse.

if we were to believe the line that “we’re just concerned about people getting mutilated” we must naturally expect to see that 97% margin of outrage at breast implants, hair implants, weight management surgery etc. for cis folk.

and we don’t. here and there you might hear an evangelical getting upsetti spaghetti avout Ozempic et al but transphobic talking points dominate, in vast disproportion to actual individual cases.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

Although they're usually fine with things like wearing glasses and getting stents. Odd, isn't it?

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Oh they absolutely do. The alternative is men with breasts. They’ll say they don’t, but when the time comes to accept cis men’s bodies when they fall outside “male” expectations they won’t.

[-] drislands@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

My mother is fond of saying "God doesn't make junk". Easily disproven whether or not you believe in a god, but she's a "if I don't like it, it didn't happen" variety of Trump supporter, so I err on the side of changing the subject over arguing.

[-] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago

I'm so sorry you have to deal with that.

There's no way I could continue having a relationship with anyone who is a trump supporter.

[-] drislands@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Thank you. It is really difficult. It's especially hard to find the line. (Un)fortunately for me she's always been unreasonable per se, so I already had her at arm's length before Trump flopped onto the scene.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Well except for giant fake titties, God wants those. If we can get those on some minors, I'm pretty sure Republicans would shut the fuck up for decades.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 6 days ago

My mother (religious) once told me my tattoos make her sad. There are only two that are visible on a forearm (the third is under my shirt). I told her that they make me feel happy. She’s never brought it up again. But hers is less fervent, still rooted in the same origin.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

I'm guessing that's because the Bible says no tattoos in the same book where it says not to eat pork and shellfish, but Christians only believe the passages in the Pentateuch if they're okay with them.

Bible says no pork, pork is ok.

Bible says not to be gay in the exact same book, being gay is an abomination unto the lord.

[-] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago

What it actually says is not to lay with a man as you would with a woman. It's not about being gay, it's about topping!

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

This appears to be an issue with accurate reporting. Considerations like this would make the data make a lot more sense.

The problem is the interpretation by those running the study.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I’m not sure I am perfectly following you—what should the authors have said?

I am definitely mistakenly misreading you here, sorry for the inconvenience!

(significantly edited to reflect my intent; also if any others could help me out, i don’t mean to bug this person and annoy them)

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago

just because I had something to add doesn’t mean I missed you point.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

well i am missing your point i guess, sorry. could you rephrase what you are saying ? im quite lost

edit: like what is “the problem” involved here? what are the journalists saying that is misleading?

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