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Thirty minutes into the presidential debate, I’ve heard from three veteran Democratic presidential campaign officials, and all of them had the same reaction to President Biden’s performance: This is a disaster. It wasn’t just that Biden wasn’t landing a glove on Donald Trump on the economy, the overturning of Roe v. Wade, Covid, taxes, temperament or anything else that was coming up in the questioning. It was Biden’s voice (low and weak) and facial expression (frozen, mouth open, few smirks) with answers that were rambling or vague or ended in confusion. He gave remarks about health care and abortion that didn’t make a strong point, giving Trump a chance to say lines like, “I really don’t know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don’t think he knows what he said, either.” One of the Democrats said Biden looked scared. Another said it was an “emperor has no clothes” performance so far. The third said of the performance overall, “Don’t ask.” Trump lied repeatedly during the debate about the pandemic, immigration and Roe v. Wade, but Biden didn’t hold him accountable for those lies in a memorable way. At times, Trump attacked Biden, but the president didn’t fight back. Frank Luntz, a veteran focus group moderator who was holding a live focus group during the debate, wrote of their reactions so far: “The group is so bothered by Biden’s voice and appearance. But they’re getting madder and madder with Trump’s personal attacks.” “If Trump talks less,” Luntz said, “he wins. If Biden doesn’t stop talking, he loses.”

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 77 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's incredible that this fucking disaster is what it took for them to finally realize their emperor has been running around with his dick out babbling for years.

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

these people pretend they know anything about whats going on, thats why. libs know either a tiny bit or absolutely nothing about whats going on in any way.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

I heard a great term to describe these types recently: midwits. They mistake their ability to not fall for the most obvious bullshit as a sign they’ve got a deep understanding of the situation.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And none of them will have even a moment's reflection or consider that maybe they should start listening to the people who've been warning them about this the whole time.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And they're still going to blame us when they eat shit.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dems' shitty candidate loses? They blame us and say we're just sabotaging them, so they don't need to listen to us.

Dems' shitty candidate wins? They say it's proof that triangulation works and that they don't need to listen to us.

Can't fucking win with these people.