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CNN just aired the presidential debate about 5 hours ago.
Here's a shortened version. (You'll understand the level of despair within the first five minutes.)
TLDW: Trump lying and ignoring the question to try to slander Biden like a 10y/o trying to displace blame after getting caught bullying. Biden was was talking like someone with the grogginess just getting woken up in the middle of the night then smoking a joint right before coming on. (i.e. We're fucked either way.)
Except Trump is going to wreck the democracy even further and ruin world politics by letting his dictatorship pals do whatever they want.
The level of fuckedness his second term will cause it's incomparable to anything imagined. Basically he will create the antithesis of what America was supposed to be.
So seeing him as an equally bad candidate is completely misguided.
As an outsider, I havent ever seen 'Muricans give a flying-fuck about international repercussions from their actions foreign or domestic including their election/results.
If DNC fail, RNC win. So for the next 50 years starting Dec2024 .... we are going to see an 'Murican Dictatorship in action. Hunger Games for all.
Good Job Y'all won the Pulitzer Darwin Nobel and every award there ever was and ever will be ! @#$@#@##@$#@@#@****
As someone who doesn't like giving Biden free passes just because he's not Trump, I feel like I haven't seen anyone mentioning the time limit set for responses during the debate. It clearly was not in his favor. Trump can talk your ear off about any nonsense he can dream of at a moments notice.
Biden has always had to take time to think. Look at his speeches, look at the times he responds to reporters. There's always pauses and gaps between responses where he has to think.
"They don't like us and they think we're stupid"
Ah, trump has discovered US-americans' stereotype in many countries (that has already existed for decades at least).
Backwards politics and worse education will only strengthen that stereotype. The way to change that are progressive politics and huge investments in education.
Anyway that really is a mess for both. I get that the republicans sent Trump again since he got a fascism-like personal cult, but why did the democrats send Biden?
Can they still change their candidate?
Anyway this is a perfect example to show why a democracy should have more than two parties.
Yes, he is not the “official” candidate until the convention in August.
Unfortunately, the way our voting works, it is nearly impossible for a third-party candidate to be viable.
My favorite moment was when Biden lied about Hamas rejecting the ceasefire deal and said israel accepted it.
And then Trump said "No israel is the party that wants to continue this war... and you should let them go and let them finish the job".
Omg did Trump really say that? The first part of the sentence is true (and the only true thing I've heard him say in the debate so far), but the second as a follow up to that is plain fucking insane. Holy shit. Hitler level rhetoric on display.
https://youtu.be/KbOet85eiFI?si=ctt-5f6grcP3TMlF&t=180
That's incredible lol