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[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's not theft, because it doesn't deprive the original owner of anything.

That's not how theft works. It's called intellectual property. You are depriving the creator of compensation for the work they have dedicated resources to producing.

If it wasn't, no one would ever develop any kind of software or scientific research or write a book or produce any kind of intangible work whatsoever.

This is complete nonsense fabricated by entitled children and it is exhausting.

theft from billionaire hollywood studio owners is cool and good.

You can justify it however you want. That's what any criminal does. It doesn't make it not theft.

[–] YuccaMan@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not so. The people who actually produce media (actors, writers, production crew) rarely if ever see fair compensation or residuals for their work. The only people you're stealing from are the people who already stole the value that the actual creators generated, i.e. the studio. And in my opinion, you can't rob a thief anyway.

This logic doesn't hold with smaller and/or independent projects, which even the saltiest pirates acknowledge should be payed for in the usual manner.

Edit: Your point about compensation doesn't even have a completely factual basis. Numerous scientific and medical advancements throughout history have been produced without compensation, often because their creators intentionally declined to profit from them. Sir Banting is a favored example around here; he was one of the first to synthesize insulin, and he and his colleagues opted not to patent it so that it would be as widely available as possible.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The people who actually produce media (actors, writers, production crew) rarely if ever see fair compensation or residuals for their work.

And in your utopia there would be zero compensation because the project would never be started in the first place.

The only people you're stealing from are the people who already stole the value that the actual creators generated, i.e. the studio.

What? How does a studio steal the value that they created...?

This logic doesn't hold with smaller and/or independent projects

No one mentioned anything about "small projects". Tell me which of these small projects are not allowed to be pirated?

Your point about compensation doesn't even have a completely factual basis. Numerous scientific and medical advancements throughout history have been produced without compensation

Because they have fucking day jobs that allow them the freedom to do that. Day jobs where they're paid to do the same kind of work professionally and are able to dedicate the time to develop the skills and experience necessary to develop these side projects...

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it wasn't, no one would ever develop any kind of software or scientific research or write a book or produce any kind of intangible work whatsoever.

Open source software developers, fan translators, emulation developers, etc.: lol.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

They make things without getting compensated for it. Same goes for everyone whose hobbies are drawing, painting, making music or any creative endeavor. I'm sure you also have hobbies, are you paid to do them?