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As Julian Assange enjoys his first weekend of freedom in years, there appeared to be no question in the mind of his wife, Stella, about what the family’s priorities were.

The WikiLeaks co-founder would need time to recover, she told reporters after they were reunited in his native Australia, after a deal with US authorities that allowed him to plead guilty to a single criminal count of conspiring to obtain and disclose classified defence documents.

What comes after that is one of the most intriguing questions for anyone familiar with how the site he founded in 2006 utterly changed the nature of whistleblowing. Will it return to its original mission?

James Harkin, the director of the London-based Centre for Investigative Journalism, (said) “In retrospect, it’s striking that everything WikiLeaks published was true – no small feat in the era of “disinformation” – but the tragedy is that much of its energy and ethos has now passed to blowhards and conspiracy theorists. Perhaps, in the light of our tepid new involvements in the Middle East and Ukraine, we need a new WikiLeaks.”

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[–] demonsword@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The man has every reason to hate the USA. Helping getting Trump to power would surely be some sweet revenge, since another Trump presidency will be undoubtely be divisive and harmful

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That really is not an excuse for his relationship with Russia.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-leaks-on-russian-government-during-u-s-presidential-campaign/

It sounds a lot less like it would be revenge a lot more like it would be marching orders he would be happy to comply with.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That really is not an excuse for his relationship with Russia.

The enemy of my enemy is a short-term ally, that might be how he thinks, who knows. I have no side in this fight since I'm not a Assange fanboy and I have nothing but contempt for the USA.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Short-term? That article was from 2016.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In 2016 he had already spent years hiding inside an embassy. It's not that hard to conceive that hatred tends to build over time.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Okay, but you said it was short-term. That is not short-term. And as far as I know, Wikileaks is still very easy on Russia. So how long is this favoritism of his going to last? Why should that be what Wikileaks is about?

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Okay, but you said it was short-term. That is not short-term.

It was just a conjecture of how Assange might have thought about. I never said that there really is any link between him and Russia. And it was long ago, when he was still hiding inside Ecuador's embassy, when the hypothetical link between him and Russia was new.

And as far as I know, Wikileaks is still very easy on Russia. So how long is this favoritism of his going to last?

I doubt he still runs wikileaks. Assange was in jail for years.

Why should that be what Wikileaks is about?

I don't know and I don't really care.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He wasn't in jail. He was in the Ecuadorian embassy. It sounds like you really don't know the details here.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

He wasn’t in jail. He was in the Ecuadorian embassy. It sounds like you really don’t know the details here.

what? I did acknowledge that:

It was just a conjecture of how Assange might have thought about. I never said that there really is any link between him and Russia. And it was long ago, when he was still hiding inside Ecuador’s embassy, when the hypothetical link between him and Russia was new.

and:

In 2016 he had already spent years hiding inside an embassy. It’s not that hard to conceive that hatred tends to build over time.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You literally just said:

I doubt he still runs wikileaks. Assange was in jail for years.

So which is it? Was he in jail or not?

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He was jailed in 2019. Are you telling me he still managed wikileaks from inside a prison in the UK?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And how many years was he in prison in the UK? Because you said he was there for years.

And we were also talking about what happened in 2016, which, last I checked, was before 2019.

So I take back what I said about you being unfamiliar. You're familiar, just dishonest about it.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You're rationalizing a 2010 case with a 2016 argument. Your timeline doesn't check out.

Also blaming Assange for exposing American war-crimes instead of Bush and Obama for committing them and covering them up is ridiculous.