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[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 225 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I would argue the top picture is also a big no no.

[–] krippix@feddit.org 82 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Dark Arc is saying that it is generally considered a bad thing, contrary to the comic which is implying that it is generally considered good or neutral when it should be considered bad.

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (4 children)

you guys missed the point. neither should be bad. it's only bad because of how we sexualize eveything. it's the sexualization that's bad, and honestly, that wouldn't even be that bad if it weren't for the patriarchal exploitation of sex.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Shouldn't both be bad? Stop sharing naked photos of people who can't give you consent to do so.

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

there is nothing inherently wrong with our naked bodies. society has conditioned us to have shame. once upon a time, being naked was normal.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I'd still rather people not show off photos of me without them asking. Its okay to have privacy.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This has now gone to: sharing baby pictures is a privacy violation because the baby can’t give consent.

Lot of very special people in this thread on Lemmy today.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I haven’t been able to peg Lemmy down even after a year and this thread hasn’t helped. Lemmy is pro-freedom, acceptance, and FOSS, is literal to the point of absurdity, has a selectively activated superiority complex, and averages ~17 years old. Knowing all of that, I’m still endlessly befuddled. Any chance you’ve got the last puzzle piece?

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy skews way older. Like 30+ average I'd say.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

There are many users over 30 but they are the minority. The clear absence of memory beyond what I’d personally describe as recent is pretty telling. I really have nothing tangible to back the assertion but it’s fairly apparent to me as a person of an age.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

this particular thread seems to have brought out a real strange bunch today.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's a majority (or close to) 40yr old tech autists. I'm not trying to be funny, I'm not trying to be offensive, that's just a statement of fact.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

I’ll have to ruminate on this.

[–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago

averages ~17 years old

😧

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

sharing naked with their genitals exposed baby pictures is a privacy violation

Lot of very special people in this thread on Lemmy today.

Yes, yes there are.

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, i mean in today's world, i value privacy too, but don't you wish you lived in a world where we were more in tune with the natural world and our natural selves?

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I’m betting this same person you are arguing with is a vocal atheist who doesn’t realize religion is what imposed this shame upon our natural form, and probably that taboo contributes to the sexualization.

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

i'm an atheist and i realize that.

i agree with some other folks on here. i think there are a lot of children who haven't thought this stuff all the way through yet.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago

Id be quite curious if you're a nudist. If you're fine and happy to run amok without clothes on, have at it!

Dont be an ass. Don't share naked photos of people. Its really not that difficult of a concept to have.

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

STOP SHARING NAKED IMAGES OF PEOPLE WHO CANNOT CONSENT

IT IS THEIR BODY, NOT THEIR PARENTS AND NOT YOURS

WHY IS CONSENT SO HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

Lay off the caps lock bud.

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

wow. you are triggered. you must still be young enough that this hits home for you.

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm an adult

I'm sure you wouldn't want your parents taking naked pictures of you now and showing people

How is it any different from when you are a baby

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

because i was...

wait for it...

a baby.

grow up.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Stop sharing any photos of people who don't give consent, whether they can or not.

In an alternate timeline where we never had the stigma around nudity, I'd be just as embarrassed of my nose in a photo than I would of my penis.

Or maybe 10 years after I cut ties with you because you became a massive douche sandwich, I don't want my picture on the same Facebook wall as your white pride rally.

Not you, personally, but any body really.

[–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Hmm, that's a good point, I was just clarifying what Dark Arc said as far as I can tell. You're right neither should be sexualized, but in the world we live in neither should be shared IMO.

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Still shouldn't be sharing naked pictures of people without consent and of people who cannot consent

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

neither should be bad.

Yes, they both should be bad. Don't show people photos of naked children.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think krippix’ point (as well as the comic’s point) is that the first is socially acceptable while the second is not. And that then suggests that the first scenario should also not be socially acceptable.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And that then suggests that the first scenario should also not be socially acceptable.

Last part depends on interpretation. But most likely yes.

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

I agree with this interpretation

Don't take pictures of your child naked people

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 8 points 4 months ago

I don't think it really takes a side ... just kind of points out that it's super weird that it's more socially acceptable in one direction than the other.

I do hope the author intended for what I said to be the point though.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

You'd think so, but a disturbing number of people think the problem is there is a difference, not the nude photos.

[–] macrocarpa@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Yeah that's kinda the point.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

Definitely, there's nothing "cute" about nude photos of children.

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My mom has a picture of me when I was a baby taking a bath. My grandma made her censor my genitals with masking tape. I miss my grandma.

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dude, my mom covered our genitals with a washcloth. The only pic of me naked shows my bum. I had no idea nude baby pics were so popular.