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[–] fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (6 children)

This is not a good deal. First of all I highly doubt this mobo and CPU will be Windows 11 compatible so you're out of luck there. For $373 you can find an AMD Ryzen 5 7600X and mobo combo deal that will vastly outperform this Chinese CPU. Also AMD's AM5 platform is DDR5 while this Chinese CPU and mobo combo is DDR4. $373 is a ridiculously non competitive price.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Who the fuck uses Windows 11?!

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Me 😢

I have a critical work app that will not run in wine or with proton.

I’ve even contacted the devs and they suggested trying to run the android version on Linux, but it doesn’t work either.

[–] realbadat@programming.dev 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have several for work that will likely never work in Linux.

So those have a nice little VM they sit on, which has been stripped bare of the nonsense. Remote desktop access enabled, and I can do what I need whenever.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

That’s pretty interesting, but it’s a meeting software. So I’m regularly sharing my screen and sharing files. So I need to be in the os. I’ll just key checking it every time a roster counts out for proton or the app I use.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's crazy, most meeting software I've seen is cross platform and have web clients.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

I know, it’s exactly how I feel about the situation.

They are going to release a new version with monetization soon. Maybe that will be a big .0 release and maybe there will be a Linux version.

[–] realbadat@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ah, admittedly I avoid that problem entirely, I have an MTR, a ZR, etc running on devices here (hardware/software testing stuff), so I don't need to run meetings on my desktop often.

Edit: Just to note, I've done USB passthrough with VMs that were ZR builds and such, so that can be done. But I think if your sharing from there it can get messy (USB video capture and such as your sharing method, so on).

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So stream your desktop to the VM?

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

To share the bigger picture, I’m using this app 99% of my working hours. So it doesn’t make sense to do it this way.

I’d be better off just working out of the vm but due to performance loss and dealing with passing through usb I just use windows.

Although, outside of work I use Linux.

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

What is the app? You may need to install libhoudini (libndk if you have AMD processor) if it the app is arm only. https://github.com/casualsnek/waydroid_script

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The majority of businesses and a lot of consumers. 46% of steam users. Few years it'll be the majority.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago
[–] Weslee@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I do, I've been trying to get off it and onto Bazzite but I tried to do a test run by installing it on my laptop before my pc and the boot loader won't pick up the usb 😔

I don't feel comfortable doing it on my pc without first seeing it work, so it seems I'm stuck on windows

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago
[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

No Intel Management Engine though.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io -1 points 4 months ago

Is that a bad thing though?

[–] exanime 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is not a good deal. First of all I highly doubt this mobo and CPU will be Windows 11 compatible so you're out of luck there.

That's a feature lol

For $373 you can find an AMD Ryzen 5 7600X and mobo combo deal that will vastly outperform this Chinese CPU

Really? I'm actually asking because I don't think you can get the amd combo you mentioned at that price. Also, we'd need to confirm the specs and performance. So far it would be just speculation

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 4 points 4 months ago

Really? I’m actually asking because I don’t think you can get the amd combo you mentioned at that price.

Without even trying... https://pcpartpicker.com/list/msJQ6D

This is not even the lowest you can go, as I wouldn't get an A620 mobo. Also not a recommendation, just first three components I found.

BTW, afaik this is a MIPS CPU, with proprietary ISA. Who would want this other than the Chinese government exactly?

[–] Kualk@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Give us some links for combo of motherboard, CPU and fan. I assume it needs a fan.

[–] fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Here:

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-RyzenTM-6-Core-Mortar-Motherboard/dp/B0C1P856RB/

https://www.amazon.com/PCCOOLER-Paladin-Nickel-Plated-Anti-oxidant-Protective/dp/B0CN66YDXT/

CPU + Mobo combo plus a CPU cooler which adds up to about $381.40 which is $8 more than Chinese CPU + mobo combo. I think that's close enough to be within the margin of price fluctuations. That AM5 mobo comes with four memory slots, PCIe 4.0, USB 3.2 and Wifi 6E. Those features may be worth extra $8 for some.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bundle List Price: $498.99

Not even close.

[–] Kualk@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Total is $398 bundle with lower end fan. It is comparable.

The choice will be driven by hardware characteristics for me. Power vs performance questions. If performance is roughly the same, then I will prefer lower power consumption.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

That's not a MSRP. You can't compare a deal to MSRP.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

You shouldn't compare retail prices with deals. Go compare it to AMD MSRP.

[–] Allero 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think what people here miss out is that it's not meant to immediately become a retail choice.

First, some specific industries might be interested, then others, then, maybe, common consumers.

[–] fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

This Chinese CPU and mobo is not meant to compete against Intel or AMD based system. This 4 core CPU is probably comparable to 2019 Intel or AMD CPU at best. This CPU meant for two markets, domestic Chinese consumers and Chinese government. The west sees China as emerging threat so they've been blocking lot of chip manufacturing tech and high end GPUs used for AI. The Chinese government wants to be less dependent on western technology and build their own domestic CPU. Also Chinese government may be paranoid about Intel IME and AMD ST spying on them so this CPU would alleviate that worry. Clearly it's not meant to be sold in mass to western consumers. If I had to guess actual competitive price of this CPU and mobo combo is around $150 at the most.