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[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Genuine question. I completely agree that Biden is not doing nearly enough. I agree he sucks.

But if we don't vote for biden, trump will win. And if Trump wins, we are completely fucked and he will not only 100% help israel wipe gaza off the map, probably help russia take over ukraine, very possibly deepen the war between europe and russia and he will end democracy in america.

Our trans and other LGBT comrades will be even more oppressed if not outright imprisoned. People of color will face way more harassement and protection against racism, sexism etc in the workplace will be wiped.

The climate will be even more fucked than it already is and set our efforts back several decades.

There will be so much violence and pain. And it is not a hole we can likely climb out of for a very very long time.

When we vote for biden. We are not voting FOR biden. It is a vote against trump and to buy us more time to fight back.

So while i understand hating biden for everything has done and is doing. But we HAVE to keep trump out of the white house.

So my question is, do you not see how important that is?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If you hit snooze on your alarm when you're 2 hours late is your problem solved?

Biden is already more right wing than 2016 Trump. Deferring the problem to 2028 does nothing to solve it.

Israel is already wiping Palestine off the map. They're annexing the entire West Bank right now.

When we vote for biden. We are not voting FOR biden. It is a vote against trump and to buy us more time to fight back.

We heard this in 2020. Nobody is going to fix anything in the meantime as was promised in 2020. It's only going to get worse. A Biden 2024 victory just means going back to sleep and ignore all issues until 2028 when the problem is even worse.

If Biden wants to win he can compromise with the left to win votes. He can compromise before the election instead of after it. If Biden doesn't t want to do that he clearly doesn't believe Trump is as much of a danger as you do.