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"And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be," he said.

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[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lots of talk in this thread. I stood during the pandemic against anti-vaccs and no-masks and intend to again. I've heard a lot of excuses, mostly surrounding a need to work and pay bills and how they cannot jeopardize that.

I wonder if there will be excuses this time.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure why you think the need to work and pay bills isn't a legitimate reason to not do other things. You have to eat to live and living is a lot harder without a home. Or with a home but without services like running water.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because it's just an excuse... I shower daily but somehow that task doesn't prevent me from doing other stuff

Similarly you can work and pay your bill while still setting time aside to organize, protest, write, etc

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I thought we were talking about people using having to work and pay bills as an excuse to not go out on the street and protest. You can't do any of those things from a cell, which is what they're risking. I don't blame anyone for not risking that, especially if they have people who depend on them like small children.

But sure, they can do other things like organize and write. That's true.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

It is an excuse, when used as a barrier to why they can't. My point being that these rights, expectations, social norms, whatever else we might call them or list, are being slowly shaved away. There is also something to be said for that risk being one of the leashes placed upon the working class. A fear of reprisal. A very real fear, unfortunately.

Yet this is where we are. Either we take these risks or risk everything being systematically taken away anyway while we struggle to pay ever increasing bills. A slow death from financial squeeze.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think it was an excuse not to wear a mask/get vaccinated, but exanime lost the plot.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Maybe, I'm not paying too much attention.... I thought we were talking about excusing people from participating in the policial process because of work and bills

[–] exanime@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

You can't do any of those things from a cell

According to whom... Perhaps not for long, but Americans still have the right to assemble peacefully and some freedom of speech left

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

but Americans still have the right to assemble peacefully and some freedom of speech left

Sure. Tell that to all the BLM protestors that got rounded up. Or the college students protesting Israel this year for that matter.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So your point is that Americans are excused from protesting going straight into fascism because they are basically already there?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

The ones with children to feed? Yes. Do you have children who rely on you to survive?

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Some of us have physical disabilities that are not very visible. Prison would be a prescription for even more physical ailments.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Then that is a different (actually valid) excuse

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

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