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[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This war would've never even started if Russia hadn't done a full invasion. And everyone with a brain knows the peace demand from Russia are bullshit. You talk about millions dying but then are willing to subjugate millions under Russian occupation. But I guess when you and your lemmygrad pals believe "Russia did nothing wrong" it's also pretty easy to believe Russia has every right to fuck over Ukraine.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This war would've never even started if NATO didn't keep expanding eastwards as Stoltenberg openly admitted

He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that. So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm

And everyone with a brain knows the peace demand from Russia are bullshit.

Being easily brainwashed by propaganda is not a sign of having a functioning brain.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Tiananmen Square happened the Chinese government are fascists and is literally collapsing

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

you keep on coping little buddy, it's adorable

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 4 months ago
[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This war would've never even started if NATO didn't keep expanding eastwards as Stoltenberg openly admitted

Except NATO isn't expanding east because NATO wants to expand east. NATO expands east because the countries next to Russia want assurances against Russia. Poland and the Baltics know since MRP that you can't trust Moscow. Finland and Sweden didn't join NATO until Russia threatened them. In Ukraine the polling data correlates with Russia's annexation of Crimea because the month before annexation Ukrainians had no desire to join NATO and the month after annexation majority Ukrainians wanted to join NATO. NATO expansions happen in response to the bullying by Russia. The whole "NATO shouldn't expand east" is Russian talking point so Russia could continue bullying it's neighbors. Your link says that exact same thing.

Being easily brainwashed by propaganda is not a sign of having a functioning brain.

You don't need propaganda to see what shit demands Russia has. Let's give them a third of Ukraine for a botched invasion and leave the door open for another invasion by not allowing them to join NATO. What sensible demands where Ukraine gains nothing from it.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What sensible demands where Ukraine gains nothing from it.

That's what happens when you lose a war.

Except NATO isn’t expanding east because NATO wants to expand east. NATO expands east because the countries next to Russia want assurances against Russia.

Do you have a baby brain? Do you think history began when you were born three years ago?

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Go ahead, enlighten me with your infinite wisdom.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

About as relevant and informative as I imagined it would be.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Except NATO isn’t expanding east because NATO wants to expand east.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Stop with the low effort shit, either explain your point or stfu. I'm not going to decipher your comments.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You're saying some real stupid shit and you're being a snot about it. "Nato isn't doing the thing it's been doing for three decades! They're doing a different thing that comes to the same outcome!"

get it or don't this is what I'm giving you

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I wasn't expecting you to explain anything. I could tell from the first comment that you're one of those chirping tankies who just shouts talking points and couldn't defend them even if your life depended on it. So crawl back into whatever hole you came from because you were out of your depth from the very beginning.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, do I chirp or do I shout?

And I fully explained myself wrt nato expansion. I gave a minimum viable outline as well as critiquing your position. You just don't like being satirized.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You didn't explain shit. You linked an image and then essentially said "figure it out yourself". Nothing you "said" contradicted what I said.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh I see, the head of NATO is lying, gotcha.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I know that reading comprehension isn't your strong suite but please do try and come back when you understand what I said before.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I love how you genuinely believe you said anything insightful of meaningful. 😂