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[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

True. Even the ones who have some sort of real wealth, like they own their home, have a significant retirement IRA, or whatever would still benefit from a rising of the tide, if you will.

They also seem to misunderstand (if I’m kind I’d say it’s due to purposeful miseducation they received) the difference between your own personal property, which depending who you ask would probably include your home (a modest home anyway, mansions, ehhhhh), your tv, whatever petty shit you’ve acquired.

That’s all opposed to private property ie privately owned properties which are owned solely to extract value from other people. Now days in the US anyway this is mostly rental properties. A family might own 10 houses renting 9 at extortion amounts, typically double or more any loan they have to repay on the property, and just living purely by sucking money from others. So yeah those people would have all their houses except one taken and distributed in any sort of just system. People seem to have it in their heads that like I or some group of people want to take grandma’s home and make her live in whatever the fuck they’re imagining- something horrible probably. No, no one is advocating for that. I just want all the other grandmas (and everyone else) who are forced to live under tyrant landlords to not have to do so.

They actively ignore the violence done systematically to a large portion of society daily which will continue on forever if not stopped and focus on the solution being less violence done over a short period of time to a small portion of society. A cop beats a homeless man to death while a landlord sits on an empty or unaffordable to rent house- this is fine! I say take 9 out of 10 properties- I’m literally satan! Maybe they’ll get it some day, who knows.

[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'd say it's mostly due to uncritically listening to whatever they are told and being part of a more-privileged portion of society that is subjected to less systemic violence.

Sure, some people DO just hold on obsessively to the idea that one day they will truly "make it big," but it seems to me that many liberals are wandering around perpetually lost as to how to address their complaints about society. Once they become exposed to compelling evidence and logic that explains the contradictions they've been confounded by, they'll slowly start asking more questions beginning with "why?"

After that, it's just a matter of time before thinking, "what is to be done?" Maybe I put too much faith in humanity, but I believe most people want an egalitarian society but lack experience with critical thinking and have never had any exposure to the foundational theory exploring how to accomplish this goal.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Yeah definitely agree with that, and then of course there's the gentry. This is a really fun read about them https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/trump-american-gentry-wyman-elites/620151/