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Old AC's and Fridges work forever. Probably horrible for the environment, but they work.
I sometimes wonder how much of the “power efficiency” modern appliance manufacturers trumpet is completely annulled by the fact that they have 30% the useful lifetime of their less efficient ancestors.
30%? You're overestimating the lifetime of modern appliances.
The refrigerator my grandfather bought in the 1940s has outlived 7 others purchased later, and the old man himself. It's still chugging along in the basement of their house, 80-some years after it was built.
And thousands of refrigerators bought in the 1940s have been in landfills since the 1950s.
Yeah, people also say how old cars were better than modern ones, but that's only driven by the fact that all the broken ones are scrapped for a long time now. In fact, modern cars have much longer lifespans than the old rust buckets.
See "survivorship bias"
Thousands of refrigerators bought in 2022 are already in landfills.
So you're trying to say here that frisges don't last longer than a year now?
Bullshit
I've warrantied two fridges in their first year for failed VFDs. So, yes, I'll say that quite a few don't last a year. And I'd wager most of those 1940's fridges were still working when they were discarded, just obsolete in 1950's kitchens.
So you had production quality issues, that doesn't mean that modern frisges dont last, not to mention that this is just a personal bad experience. Every frisge I've bought lasted for decades, the last one going 5 years and strong.
If I'd have to venture a guess, is say that most.modern fridges will last about 10-20 years easily. Few moving parts, so makes sense
That doesn't mean that those fridges were simply discarded. They were probably refurbished and re-sold.
And what you described about being obsolete sounds like a fashion thing, not an engineering thing.
The best appliance for the environment is still the one you already have.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no
Unless you have to refill their ozone-killing stuff for them to work properly.
Only when they leak or get thrown out. If they’re still working they’re not leaking, but maybe drawing more power than needed.
The power draw of old refrigerators is like 5-10 times higher than a modern one.
Oh yeah that’ll do it.
The biggest change when we got new window AC units was how much more quiet they are.