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[–] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What? GNU has a kernel, it's called Linux!

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

no. gnu does have a kernel. But it's not linux. it's called gnu hurd. It is actually about a year older than linux. It isn't finished, and barely anyone uses it

[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

GNU Hurd technically isn't the kernel. GNU Mach is.

[–] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GNU has both Hurd and Linux, very powerful indeed!

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

just, no. linux is simply not a gnu project. at all.

If it were, we wouldn't be hearing about them wanting to call it gnu/linux because, in their own words, the os is "gnu with linux added"

they'd just want to call it gnu.

a very quick google search could have told you that

[–] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't use "google search" because it is nonfree software; linux was not started by the GNU project members. However, GNU does have a linux, it's called Linux-libre.

GNU is the operating system in its entirety. GNU/Linux is the name used to best describe the exact operating system by giving principal credit to the Linux foundation. The GNU part is to highlight the fact that it is a libre operating system first and foremost.

Perhaps I need to reread the essays again, but the main takeaway is that what's at stake here isn't credit but the political legacy of software freedom. Something that is made obvious by your last remark.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so that is linux-libre, not linux. linux still is not a gnu project.

[–] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great observation! I'm glad you feel better now.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

just curious.... which foss search engine do you use?

[–] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Searxng, Whoogle, Librex, Mullvad Leta (accessible with a Mullvad subscription)

I also use brave search with many of its SaaS features turned off (AI summary, discussions) because Brave has a independent index thats useful to consult. The previous ones I mentioned are proxies to already established indices.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

searxng is a meta search engine. It uses google search, among others. it is not a search engine itself.

whoogle uses google. so it's not a search engine itself

so does librex.

and so does mullvad leta