That god-awful final answer.. It was basically him saying he's too arrogant to step down in time for us to get a candidate into place that can win. He's losing in the polling now and refuses to acknowledge it.

I had him slightly in the W column prior to that final answer. He went back into the L column with that final answer.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Another banger was "I have a higher approval rate in Israel than here"

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Oh fuck I forgot about that one.

Yes. You are very popular in a country which has become a global pariah and is why you have effectively lost support entirely with any one under the age of 30.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's almost like he's torpedoing his campaign on purpose. Optics wouldn't be as important if the US had mandatory voting, meaning even alienated voters would either vote Biden or Third Party more often than the Trump crowd, but he's killing voter interest in general.

2024 will be 2016 - 2.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

I mean he's been Presidenting in a vaccuum until now. Biden is clueless, and its only now that reality is catching up with him.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So who are people under 30 supporting? Trump? Not voting or some third candidate also is a vote for Trump.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, I want to take you seriously, but at the same time, I have a hard time believing that any one is this naive.

Its not, nor has it ever been, a binary choice. You may be broken internally an incapable of seeing as anything otherwise, but its not that way for most people.

This election is, and always has been, between Biden and the couch. There is no new information that we can learn about Trump that will stop his voters from voting for him.

No "Likely Biden" voter is ever going to vote for Trump. No Trump voter will ever vote for Biden. This dye was cast in 2015.

Biden needs to drive votership and most of what he's done in his campaign so far has been to drive votership away from him.

Biden needs to secure leftwing voting blocks like the youth vote. Its the youth vote that put him into office in 2020, along with black women in GA.

Instead, he has pushed the youth vote away with his straight up genocidal policies on Gaza, and fascist policies on free speech on college campuses.

*corrected, meant GA

[–] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

From what I know about the USA's system it is binary - while you technically have more than two candidates it'll be one of the major two (republican or democrat) who'll win. So not voting or voting for a third party (which has no chance of getting elected(?)) means you don't change anything, and if Trump wins without those blocks then that means you're indirectly supporting him, simply by not opposing him with the only realistic option you have.

Please correct me if I'm wrong

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Thank you for asking, I personally love Chase Oliver https://votechaseoliver.com/ on the ballot in all 50, the establishment wants you to think its a waste while they support Brain Worm RFK who is only on 18 state’s ballots and say debates should only be Trump and Biden for clarity 🙄. Sir if they already silence us, why would you help them? And why would they even see the need to silence us as a plus?

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The final answer had me screaming... "What?!? No one is telling you that it isn't likely you'll beat Trump?" He's like... Well, if the polls show me in the negative... Someone needs to show him the polls.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Which is like, emblematic of THE ENTIRE FUCKING PROBLEM WITH BOTH BIDEN AND ALL DEMOCRATS!!!

A complete and utter detachment from reality. Like, JOE. You are fucking losing this election for everyone. And the fact that he doesn't know or acknowledge it..

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago

On the flip side I got ten emails from Democrats yesterday telling me that our entire country stands on a precipice and the whole thing pretty much rides on me making a donation.

So you know, they're showing some urgency on that side of it.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

It is a factually wrong headline.