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The Trump campaign aims to use today's shooting as a sort of Reichstag fire to incite his supporters to step up street violence while calling for more state repression targeting his enemies of choice.

The Biden campaign has already paused all outbound communications and withdrawn their television advertisements, ceding the entire field of narrative to Donald Trump, who will have no compunction about using his status as a victim to advance his efforts to victimize others.

One of the classic mechanics of totalitarianism is that protecting the safety of the leader becomes a justification for violence against large swathes of the population.

As centrists join the far right in paving the way for totalitarian rule under Trump, we have to organize to defend our communities. If you have been in denial about the challenges ahead of us, this should be a wake-up call to find each other and prepare for them.

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[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I ain't scared of some rascal riding MAGA supporter.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Ever heard about firearms? Turns out you don't have to be in shape to fire them and one shot can be enough to kill. Maybe want to read up on that.

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right, that's why so many wars have been won by obese elderly people.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They don't have to win a war to kill you 🙄

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Uh how are they going to get me after losing a war. You do understand what happens to people that lose wars right?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Judging by your username, some of them are already your neighbors.

That's the thing with a civil war: your enemy isn't only on the battle field.

And in a country with ridiculously lax gun laws and extremely insufficient mental health care system, you could be next to a deranged MAGA cult member and future murderer at any time.

And on that cheery note, I'm gonna go to bed! Have a pleasant day 😁

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Keep beating the drum that they're all fat losers. You have no idea how wrong you are.

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You are fringe minority of a minority. You will absolutely wilt at any real fighting just like you did with the BLM riots. You're only good at coopting the government to do your dirty work.

Only liberals are afraid of these people and it's because they're deeply sympathetic to them.

And yes most of you are overweight aging Boomers.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Boomers are my parents. I doubt there are many 65-80 year old people going to take up arms.

How about the ex-military guy down my street? Young man, in fine shape, flying his Trump flag from the day he moved in. And he has loads of friends, just like him. His neighbor, also young and fit, would join the Red Hats as soon as they became popular enough. As would many of these local boys.

Bought a canteen at a gun show after 01/06. Overheard the guy talking to another attendee. Ex-military, Oath Keeper, literally talking about awaiting a signal. If I wasn't so shocked, had my wits about me, I would have pointed the FBI to him. I invite you to visit a gun show and scope out the crowd, see what we're up against. (Tried to find the vendor list for the show, failed. But I did turn in my neighbor's brothers!)

I'm in a wildly conservative area, military town to boot (heh). These men could easily be rounded up into vigilante groups, especially after the events of yesterday.

You've bought the memes as if they're reality. People post memes of idiots, because they're pictures of idiots. Money says you're surrounded by like minded liberals with no exposure to these people. Or guns.

And what the fuck are you on about assuming I'm a sympathizer? 01/06 gave me low-key PTSD, I'm still not the same. FFS, after yesterday I'm not leaving the house unarmed.

Keep playing like they're not a threat, whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm keeping my AR by the bed, a Colt .45 in my desk and a subcompact in my waistband. When they come knocking, don't give me your shocked Pikachu face.

EDIT: Your username explains much of your position. But hey! You might be safe up there. For a time.

Also, I honestly can't make sense of the rest of your post.

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh no not the Oath Keepers! Bruh they're a bunch of beer swilling fat LARPers too even if some of them are ex military.

And just because you have military training doesn't make you a good insurgent.

1.) Ex military are trained to fight within a larger army. If you Trumpers really start something you will be 100% on your own.

2.) Most Ex military have a head full of screws loose. The number one way vets die is by suicide. If you think they will be an effective fighting force you are delusional. Many of them got sectioned out for this very reason!

3.) In fighting. You Drumpfters all think your snowflake ideology is the true way. Turns out the shooter was a Republican. This will be amped up 100x of y'all start actually getting desperate.

And so what of your parents are boomers. They're part of the problem. They're most likely reactionaries that are culpable for where we are now.

I am not afraid one iota, anyone that puts in the necessary time to defend themselves shouldn't be either.